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Classic Auto and Motorcycle Tools => Classic Auto and Motorcycle Tools => Topic started by: Charles Garrett on September 06, 2014, 03:46:12 PM

Title: Lane's Unique socket sets
Post by: Charles Garrett on September 06, 2014, 03:46:12 PM: Is anyone familiar with Lane's Unique hex drive socket sets of the 1920s? They were packed in leather boxes w wood ends. Chuck Garrett
Title: Re: Lane's Unique socket sets
Post by: eddie hudson on September 06, 2014, 04:23:40 PM: What would you like to know?

My set has 6 hex sockets (unmarked), a 6" extension, a screwdriver bit and the ratchet, packed in an 8 1/4" wood box that has leather? covering around it except for the ends.
Title: Re: Lane's Unique socket sets
Post by: HeelSpur on September 06, 2014, 04:27:40 PM: Scroll down on this page, it has some info.
https://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/other-makers-p2.html
Title: Re: Lane's Unique socket sets
Post by: jimwrench on September 06, 2014, 04:49:15 PM: All I've got is a ratchet with one socket. Ratchet marked with Jan 14,08 patent date.
In second photo Lane is fifth rat from left in second row.
Title: Re: Lane's Unique socket sets
Post by: Charles Garrett on September 06, 2014, 05:01:25 PM: Got out my magnifying glass and the words forged into the flat handle of an open ratchet says WILL B Lane, Chicago, Ill, Pat Jan 14 08. What is the pat #? The pics are on page 531 of the ca 1924 Knapp & Spencer Catalog # 27. Wish I had the whole catalog but just have the 2 pages(1 sheet).Haven't seen them before. How scarce are they? Chuck Garrett
Title: Re: Lane's Unique socket sets
Post by: Charles Garrett on September 06, 2014, 05:17:22 PM: Thanks, Heelspur for the URL. My first time to see it- WOW. Glad I joined this list sure learned a lot so for. Chuck Garrett
Title: Re: Lane's Unique socket sets
Post by: turnnut on September 06, 2014, 09:01:07 PM: Jimwrench,

I see that you have a lot of Ratchets, and talking about the Lane rachets,

I recently cleaned up a ratchet that was in one of my "caves" it is a HEXALL by R.F. Sedgley
Phila., PA Pat. May 1, 1917 patent # 1,224,223
has a 1/2" hex

I was wondering if the Lane older ratchet is close to the 1917 HEXALL ratcher ? do you
have one to compare them ?

you have an impresive collection there, Frank
Title: Re: Lane's Unique socket sets
Post by: Charles Garrett on September 06, 2014, 09:47:07 PM: There is a Lane ratchet pictured on Ebay
Title: Re: Lane's Unique socket sets
Post by: mvwcnews on September 07, 2014, 01:06:52 AM: The Lane patents & ads that show some of the sets' evolution have appeared in the MVWC Newsletter over the years.

Sedgley was a totally different company, with its own set of patents & products. Sedgley also made pistols.
Title: Re: Lane's Unique socket sets
Post by: Charles Garrett on September 07, 2014, 10:53:13 AM: The ratchet in the K&S catalog uses the spring wire and the first set lists the leather tool box and 2 screwdriver biades, socket range 1/4 to 5/6 while the second set lists a 7 " extension and a substantial box with a socket range of 5/16 to 11/16 for a Ford. 1st set has 7 sockets and the Ford set 6 sockets.
Title: Re: Lane's Unique socket sets
Post by: Charles Garrett on September 07, 2014, 12:50:01 PM: Are there any Lane ratchets that use the lever per his patents rather than the spring wire? Chuck Garrett
Title: Re: Lane's Unique socket sets
Post by: Charles Garrett on September 07, 2014, 05:51:54 PM: Another question: Are there any Lane ratchets that have the lever like his patents instead of the spring wire? Chuck Garrett
Title: Re: Lane's Unique socket sets
Post by: turnnut on September 07, 2014, 09:27:21 PM: yes, I know that Lane and Sedgley are not the same co. what I was looking for, is if someone has
both a Lane and a Sedgley ratchet to see how they compare to design.

from the pictures, it looks to me like Sedgley took some of Lane's ideas to build theirs, that
is where a side by side comparison would be ideal.

Sedgley was way after Lanes.

Frank
Title: Re: Lane's Unique socket sets
Post by: eddie hudson on September 08, 2014, 07:10:28 AM: I have both but unfortunately I have no idea where the Hexall is. Try looking on AA he might have a picture of both.
Title: Re: Lane's Unique socket sets
Post by: Charles Garrett on September 08, 2014, 04:51:58 PM: I show the Bartholomay (wire spring ) as 1908 and the lane Pats as 1910 & 1918. Chuck
Title: Re: Lane's Unique socket sets
Post by: rusty on September 08, 2014, 08:42:10 PM: >Sedgley was way after Lanes

Things were slower back then, a few years is not much time...

1916 issues of Automobile Dealer & Repairer in fact have advertisments for Both ratchet sets..
It is quite likely they were aware of each other's inventions...
Title: Re: Lane's Unique socket sets
Post by: eddie hudson on September 09, 2014, 06:59:09 AM: Thanks for posting the ad Rusty. I've been calling the ratchet from the K&S set as Hexall in error.
Title: Re: Lane's Unique socket sets
Post by: chuck Garrett on July 18, 2015, 08:26:17 PM: I am interested in purchasing a K & S (Kolb & Sedgley) or a Sedgley Hexall soctet set if I'm able. I am researching the R F Sedgley story.