Tool Talk
Classic Auto and Motorcycle Tools => Classic Auto and Motorcycle Tools => Topic started by: jimwrench on August 17, 2011, 03:09:42 PM
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Got a pair of Duro(mark not legible) but design pat # 119441 is stamped on face of plier. Alloy shows similar pair with this patent and model # 2114. This pair has model # 7505 on face. Whats the difference ? Did they make these with different size box ends. This pair has 9/16 and 5/8 box ends. Alloy doesn't say what size ends on 2114 are.
These were beyond restoration when I got them,but a vinegar bath and a little buffing got them in usable if not collectible shape.
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There could be different versions I suppose, the terminals on large batteries have bigger bolts in them....
Never thought about that one before....hmm...
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There is a # 2115 battery plier on page 18 of the 1935 Duro catalog, but it looks nothing like yours.
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Duro-Chrome 2114 Battery Pliers, Patent #D119,441
Found on this page, exact match. http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/duro-indestro-p2.html
Looks like the ends of the handles were box wrenches
(http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/Photos/tools/duro_2114_pliers_cropped.jpg)
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I’ve seen a pair like those… I like them...
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my question is what is difference between model 2114 and 7505 ?
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Looks like none, some manufacturers change part numbers when upgrading their numbering system.
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I just scored a pair marked Belden. Model 7505 with the same design patent. Now for some clean-up.
(http://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pages/USD119441-0.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v439/papao55/Assorted%20wrenches/IMG_7774_zps60010b89.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/papao55/media/Assorted%20wrenches/IMG_7774_zps60010b89.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v439/papao55/Assorted%20wrenches/IMG_7775_zpsf72fcbbf.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/papao55/media/Assorted%20wrenches/IMG_7775_zpsf72fcbbf.jpg.html)
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I try to use the least invasive cleaning possible, and on these pliers, I just used some SS Steel wool. Not bad results, huh?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v439/papao55/Assorted%20wrenches/IMG_7782_zpsf6e83d5e.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/papao55/media/Assorted%20wrenches/IMG_7782_zpsf6e83d5e.jpg.html)
Now, if I get out to the shop tomorrow, I might wire wheel them a bit.
By the way, the box ends are 9/16 and 5/8.
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Not bad. Do you figure that's chrome plating on them, or nickel?
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If plated at all, it is nickel. Pliers are made of Chrome Vanadium Steel, not to be confused with chrome plating.
The similar Duro #2115 seen in Alloy Artifacts is cadmium plated. Sure these are not.
https://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/duro-indestro-p4.html (https://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/duro-indestro-p4.html)
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Saw a pair of these on the bay. Neat tool.
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Never owned or seen a pair like that. I have 4 pair of batt. pliers, but believe those would be handy, especially working on the old stuff.
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What sizes are the 12 pt box ends?
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By the way, the box ends are 9/16 and 5/8.
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So that would be 15mm and 16mm, metric equivalents?
Funny - my latest car battery has 12mm nuts on it. Guess they're making everything smaller.
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In my experience, 9/16 is close enough to 14 mm to work in a pinch. Not so sure about 5/8 and 16 mm.