Tool Talk
What's-It Forum => What's-It Forum => Topic started by: EVILDR235 on July 15, 2014, 09:02:36 PM
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Over the years i have gotten several tools marked for military use. I have several Snap-On military marked tools. Tons of Plomb Wright Field tools. I picked up a Plomb chisel this past weekend marked U.S.N. I have a pair of Proto compound leverage pliers marked U.S. I use to have a Coleman lantern marked U.S.A.F. that my late father in law got me.I guess most of the tool companys made tools to help us win the war. I also have a set of very small files marked U.S.N. Most of my U.S.N. tools were bought at a garage sale across the street from the Mare Island Navel Shipyard in Vallejo Calif while i was living there.
EvilDr235
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Dad was a Navy cook in WWII ( his overseas duty was in the Marshall Islands) & somewhere along the line he must have picked up a few mess hall souvenirs.
Anyhow, we still have a couple U.S.N. stainless steel spoons & forks, and my sister kept the cookbook with recipes for 500 & 1,000 portions.
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I have some Giller tools, but no US markings on them. I had an uncle in WWII, in the Pacific, and worked his final six months as a cooks helper. When he got back to the farm he wanted to show his mother that he could bake bread. So, he started with a 50lb. bag of flour! It was a disaster. Must of been reading that cookbook.
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I have a U.S.N. stainless spoon out in my shop. Me and my wife have a a lot of Navy history in our family. We were both born on navel bases and lots of family were in the navy. i will keep collecting military tools just for the history. Maybe some day we might donate them to a museum.
EvilDr235
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I have a garden cultivator marked US with some remnants of Air Force blue paint. There's the anvil I posted a while back (no markings but only made for the army). In the kit that I'm building up there's a farrier's hammer marked US on both sides of the head. The oldest military tools I have, though, are three planes branded Ordnance Dept 1863.
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I have a pair of pliers that are not military,but are marked Made in Germany U.S.zone.
EvilDr235
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Somewhere I have a honkin big wrench deeply marked 'Torpedo room' , I have always
wondered what thing in the torpedo room needed a wrench that wasn't needed anywhere else in the sub. Or perhaps the fellow in the torpedo room just got tired of his tools wandering off...;P
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That's a pretty neat Bick Iron there!
I've got almost a full set of silverware marked for the military...
I've also got a big brass tire gauge used, presumably, on the duallys of WWII-era vehicles. Deuce and a halfs and such.
Actually, I've got and use a lot of military stuff... not a lot of tools though.
Haha, I'd like to see the Torpedo Room wrench! :P
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I have a fairly modern 11/16's box/open that is not marked G.I., but it is finished OD green. I'm not sure what the coating is, but it's tough. Maybe a powder coat. Defiantly not just paint.
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How are US military tools marked?
In Australia there is a D^D, middle one is an arrow. Department of Defence.
Batz
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In the boiler room on the big boat I don't remember seeing USN on our tools,
just which boiler room they belonged in, 4MMR-2AUX-BR shop...
I'm sure there were some marked somewhere on that big boat.
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How are US military tools marked?
In Australia there is a D^D, middle one is an arrow. Department of Defence.
Batz
In my experience, the majority are marked with a simple US. Some have more specific markings, like the wooden planes I mentioned that are marked Ordnance Dept.
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I spied a small shovel at an antique mall, bigger than an entrenching tool, short handle. Clearly stamped on the blade and handle, A.E.F., Engineers, which would place it to 1918, didn't buy it as the price was high and the backside of the blade, where the handle ferrule starts, twas badly rusted through. I do have a set of butter knives, 1920s or so, very nicely engraved not stamped, U.S.Q.M.C. United States Quarter Master Corp. Probably from an officers mess.
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Look for tools with numbers on them as pictured below. These are spec'd for military use. This example is a 15" AUTO WRENCH by Universal Metal Products Co.
There were many tools the US Military bought from manufacturers spec'd to their exact tolerances. You will find many different makers of the same wrench for some military vehicle tool kits.
Some had the numbers from the maker struck onto them, some did not.
Does not necessarily have to have a U.S., U.S.N., etc. to be military.
This wrench was for some of the heavy equipment tool kits. 41-W-450 is the numer that corresponds to this wrench in the specific Ordinance Manual.
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I know on older Snap-On military tools had the letter G as part of the part number. It stands for Government. You can see this by looking at the Snap-On tool mfg.date codes chart.I am told Snap-On will not replace tools with a G as part of the part number.I guess Snap-On gave the Feds a very good price on the tools with an agreement that there will be no replacing them if they break.
Sgt.EvilDr235
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I guess Snap-On gave the Feds a very good price on the tools with an agreement that there will be no replacing them if they break.
I was told to pick up some ball peen hammers one day, the guy showed me the price for each of them, $60 a piece. Don't know what brand they were but that was about 35 years ago. I reckon somebody had a friend that needed his pockets lined.
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I was told to pick up some ball peen hammers one day, the guy showed me the price for each of them, $60 a piece. Don't know what brand they were but that was about 35 years ago. I reckon somebody had a friend that needed his pockets lined.
Pays for the Men in Black?...
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Over the years i have gotten several tools marked for military use. I have several Snap-On military marked tools. Tons of Plomb Wright Field tools. I picked up a Plomb chisel this past weekend marked U.S.N. I have a pair of Proto compound leverage pliers marked U.S. I use to have a Coleman lantern marked U.S.A.F. that my late father in law got me.I guess most of the tool companys made tools to help us win the war. I also have a set of very small files marked U.S.N. Most of my U.S.N. tools were bought at a garage sale across the street from the Mare Island Navel Shipyard in Vallejo Calif while i was living there.
EvilDr235
Here's a Vietnam era Coleman made US military lantern complete with fuel funnel. Sorry about the side ways picture
(http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp267/blackoakbucket/101_1731640x480_zps4465397e.jpg) (http://s418.photobucket.com/user/blackoakbucket/media/101_1731640x480_zps4465397e.jpg.html)
(http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp267/blackoakbucket/101_1732640x480_zpsd08a7231.jpg) (http://s418.photobucket.com/user/blackoakbucket/media/101_1732640x480_zpsd08a7231.jpg.html)
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There was a military blow torch from the same era, I can't remember who made it. Military green with two adjusters and a gauge, I'll love one.
Batz
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I had a Air Force lantern, but is was not a Coleman.I like the little spare parts compartment.I even had the HD cardboard box it came in.My father inlaw worked at Travis Air Force base auctioning off surplus each month.He later did the same thing at Mare Island Navel shipyard.
EvilDr235
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If it wasn't a Coleman it was probably an AGM made lantern.. These military lantern sound like a jet plane when you fire them up. They are really loud compared to regular lanterns.
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It was about 15 years ago, so i don't remember the brand. The little spare parts compartment had extra mantles and a spare generator.
EvilDr235
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Bought a long time ago at a fleamarket.
Vintage tin U.S. funnel mfg. by KREAMER Inc. U.S.A.
Size: 7" tall by 6" diameter.
What would it have been used for?
Regards
Henri
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Many of the Whitworth wrenches I acquired last year were etched RCAF (Royal Canadian Air Force) but others were stamped with the Ministry of Defence "Broad Arrow" mark and others with Air Ministry "Crown". Some, if noit all of these wrenches dated to WWII. Here's couple good examples.
(https://i.postimg.cc/28941Byn/HF-Co-8905.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/JhpX37BJ/AM-Crown-Heavy-9029.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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...We were both born on navel bases...
I take it the standard uniform of the day at the navel base included bare midriffs? :grin: