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Title: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: jpaz on July 11, 2014, 02:02:44 PM

THE ATHA TOOL CO. AND ATHA NAIL HAMMERS

The Atha Tool Co. - located in Newark, New Jersey - was founded in 1884. The Company manufactured and supplied to the blacksmith, railroad maintenance, farrier, automotive repair, machinist, bricklayer, stone cutter and various woodworking trades a wide range of metal and woodworking hand tools - hammers, cold chisels, punches, anvil inserts, sledges, tongs, wedges, forming tools, hatchets, et al. The company established an enviable reputation for design excellence and superior quality and their tools were in great demand especially by blacksmiths. The Atha Tool company - along with their entire line of tools - was acquired by Stanley in 1913, a tremendous addition to the latter company's tool offerings. It appears that at first the Atha Tool company operated independently from the Stanley company and separate catalogs were issued bearing their name. However, in the 1920s Atha tools were gradually incorporated into the Stanley catalogs and the tools were identified as Stanley-Atha throughout the 1920s and 1930s.

Atha nail hammers produced prior to the 1913 Stanley acquisition are stamped on the left cheek of the nicely finished and polished heads with the company logo - an upside down horseshoe with a capital letter A in the center. These Atha nail hammers featured lacquer finished straight grain light colored hickory handles as did subsequent Stanley-Atha hammers.

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer53.jpg)
Atha nail hammer circa. 1900

(http://jp29.org/0atha01x.jpg)
Atha logo stamped on left cheek of hammer

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STANLEY-ATHA NAIL HAMMERS - 1920s TO PRE-WWII 1940s

There was a bewildering succession of model designations and numbering systems - including numerous prefixes and suffixes - for these hammers that was constantly changing during their early production life so I will keep the designations here quite general. The entire numbering system was changed in 1933.

All Stanley-Atha hammers were stamped on the left cheek of the head with the familiar STANLEY within a cartouche logo - sometimes MADE IN USA stamping was appended although this was inconsistent. This variance is also found in catalog illustrations although it should be noted that those illustrations do not always depict actual production tools. There was no Atha stamping on Stanley-Atha hammer heads. Informational decals were affixed to the handles of all new Stanley-Atha hammers - and they are very important identifiers that should be preserved at all cost - even fragments of them - for it is the only way to positively identify Stanley-Atha hammers! Handles were of straight grained hickory and were lacquer finished. The factory applied handle decals soon wore off with use, but the presence of even scant remnants is testament to the originality of handles. The model number, configuration and head weight were often stamped in black ink on the end of the handle - invaluable information all to often lost due to hammer usage. The presence of the distinctive Stanley factory head securing wedges is a good indicator of originality.

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer57.jpg)
Decal that was affixed to the handle of all Stanley-Atha nail hammers
Note the Atha Tool Co. logo on the left

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer54.jpg)
Typical Stanley-Atha nail hammer showing placement of decal on handle

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer55.jpg)
STANLEY in cartouche stamped on left cheek of hammer head

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer51.jpg)
Model designation (41½) and head weight (16oz) stamped in black ink
on the end of the handle

Stanley-Atha tack hammers were sometimes employed by wood workers for fine finishing work including installation of leather or fabric coverings. I have included one here in order to illustrate various Stanley-Atha hammer features.

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer52.jpg)
Typical Stanley-Atha tack hammer showing placement of decal on handle

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer58.jpg)
The factory applied handle decals soon wore off with use, but the
presence of even scant remnants (as here) is an important identifier

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer61.jpg)
STANLEY with MADE IN USA stamped on left cheek of hammer head

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer62.jpg)
Model number (601) stamped in black ink on the end of the

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STANLEY NAIL HAMMERS - POST WWII 1940s TO THE 1950s

Post-WWII Stanley nail hammers bore different handle decals than the pre-war Stanley-Atha hammers. The first ones following the end of the war and until circa. 1950 were orange colored and bore a small Atha Tool Company logo on the right

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer59.jpg)

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer33.jpg)

All post-WWII Stanley nail Hammers were designated as such in the Tool catalogs and sales literature - there were no longer any Stanley-Atha references. The familiar STANLEY within a cartouche logo continued to be stamped on the left cheek of the head with MADE IN USA sometimes appended, although this was inconsistent as was a model number, configuration and head weight stamping.

Stampings

Example of a typical head stamping:

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer26.jpg)
(on left cheek of head)
STANLEY
(in cartouche)
No. 51½ 16-OZ
# 5 configuration: bell face - round black neck - polished round poll
W/L code 1½: Head weight: 16 oz. - Overall length: 13"

It seems that Stanley changed the style and form of the stampings from time to time. There are variances similar to those found on Stanley wood chisels. I have encountered hammers of this period with only STANLEY (in cartouche) or STANLEY (in cartouche) with MADE IN USA underneath. These variances can also be found in catalog illustrations although it should be noted that those illustrations do not always depict actual production tools.

Decals

Decals, which sometimes included information relating to features and configuration, were affixed to the handles of new hammers - and sometimes to the right cheek of the head - at the factory.

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer41.jpg)

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer43.jpg)

Handles

Handles were of straight grained hickory and were lacquer finished. The factory applied handle decals soon wore off with use, but the presence of even scant remnants is testament to the originality of handles. The model No. configuration and head weight were usually stamped in black ink on the end of the handle - invaluable information all to often lost due to hammer usage. The presence of the distinctive Stanley factory head securing wedges is a good indicator of originality.

Remnant of label on handle:

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer33.jpg)

Ink stamping on end of handle:

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer36.jpg)

Depictions of original Stanley factory head securing wedges:

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer24.jpg)

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer31.jpg)

Claw Types

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer20.jpg)
Curved Claw Nail Hammer

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer16.jpg)
Ripping Claw Nail Hammer

There was also a "semi-ripping" style offered that had slightly more curvature than the standard Ripping Claw depicted.

Stanley Nail Hammer Configurations

    1 ..... bell face - round ribbed neck and poll - highly polished - 100 Plus
    2 ..... same as 1 except ripping claw instead of curved - 100 Plus
    3 ..... bell face - octagon black neck - octagon poll - highly polished
    4 ..... plain face - plain neck - highly finished
    5 ..... bell face - round black neck - polished round poll
    9 ..... plain face - plain neck
    10 ... bell face - round black neck with polished ribs - polished round poll

Those models described as having black (enamel paint) necks inevitably came with the tops and bottoms of the heads and the backs of the claws also painted black. The paint on the necks in particular often gradually wore off with heavy use and in consequence was sometimes sanded off entirely by users for a better appearance. "100 PLUS" hammers were described in some 1930s catalogs as having "orange enamel painted head ribs", however, I have only encountered red painted ribs.

Stanley Nail Hammer head weight and overall length (W/L) codes

    0 ............. 28 oz. ........... 15"
    1 ............. 20 oz. ........... 13½"
    1½ ......... 16 oz. ........... 13"
    2 ............. 13 oz. ........... 13"
    2½ ......... 10 oz. ........... 12½"
    3 ................ 7 oz. ........... 12"
    4 ................ 5 oz. ........... 12"

Weight is of the head only -- length is overall (top of head to bottom of handle).

EXEMPLAR STANLEY NAIL HAMMERS OF THIS PERIOD

100 PLUS

1 SERIES: bell face - round ribbed neck and poll - highly polished

2 SERIES: same as 1 SERIES except ripping claw instead of curved

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer40.jpg)
(http://jp29.org/stanhammer42.jpg)
No. 100 plus 11½
# 1 configuration: bell face - octagon neck and poll- highly polished
W/L code 1½: Head weight: 16 oz - Overall length: 13"
white lacquered hickory handle with octagon neck.

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer27.jpg)
(http://jp29.org/stanhammer28.jpg)
No. 100 plus 11½
# 1 configuration: bell face - octagon neck and poll- highly polished
W/L code 1½: Head weight: 16 oz - Overall length: 13"

The handle on this specimen has been replaced at some time in its working life.

"100 plus" series hammers were designated "the Aristocrats" of Nail Hammers by Stanley.

4 SERIES: plain face - plain neck - highly finished

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer20.jpg)
(http://jp29.org/stanhammer21.jpg")
No. 43
# 4 configuration: plain face - plain neck - highly finished
W/L code 3: Head weight: 7 oz - Overall length: 12"

5 SERIES: bell face - round black neck - polished round poll

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer25.jpg)
[/img]http://jp29.org/stanhammer26.jpg[/img]
No. 51½
# 5 configuration: bell face - round black neck - polished round poll
W/L code 1½: Head weight: 16 oz - Overall length: 13"

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer29.jpg)
(http://jp29.org/stanhammer30.jpg)
No. 53
# 5 configuration: bell face - round black neck - polished round poll
W/L code 3: Head weight: 7 oz - Overall length: 12"

Series 5 Stanley Nail Hammers - with the 51½ (16 oz) leading the way - were the most popular and best selling models. They were always featured on the first hammer page in the main Stanley Tools Catalogs.

10 SERIES: bell face - round black neck with polished ribs - polished round poll

(http://jp29.org/stanhammer18.jpg)
(http://jp29.org/stanhammer19.jpg)
No. 101
# 10 configuration: bell face - round black neck with polished ribs - polished round poll
W/L code 1: Head weight: 20 oz - Overall length: 13½"

James





Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Lostmind on July 11, 2014, 03:41:12 PM
I think I have a No. 53 , Now I'll look closer at it. I really enjoy your contributions. Glad you joined up.
Someday I'd like an article on photos. What kind of camera and how you get such clear close ups.
Thanks
again.
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Art Rafael on July 11, 2014, 04:20:07 PM
Very interesting and informative.  I appreciate your posts and the high quality pictures.  Ralph
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: lbgradwell on July 11, 2014, 06:10:14 PM
Excellent information! Many thanks!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: oldtools on July 12, 2014, 01:56:30 AM
WOW!! Nice collection, Thanks for all the info.. very professional presentations..
Do you do this type of presentations for a living or hobby?.. (you could publish your work)..
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Batz on July 12, 2014, 04:49:19 AM
Nice, thank you.
I really enjoy seeing the tools other members collect here, always interesting.

Batz
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: eddie hudson on July 12, 2014, 07:51:39 AM
Excellent pictures and information.
Thank You
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Branson on July 12, 2014, 11:11:37 AM
Dang!!  This is more than I've ever seen about hammers in one place, and a lot that I didn't know.  Impressive!

Got more?  More about hammers?  More about Atha tools?  I picked up a 4# Atha drilling hammer head at a junk store a couple of
years ago.   $4, 4#, clearly marked cast steel and Atha.  I have a tiny claw hammer maybe 3 oz with the Atha mark too.  And hammers?  I can't seem to bring myself to leave one behind.  I just put a handle on an old Plumb, and it feels so good in the hand!   There's a couple of kinda streamlined 16 oz claw hammers that I know little about -- one is marked Dynamic.  Stilettos from 13 to 28 oz...

What a great bunch of information you have shared with us.

Yep, glad you joined up.
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: jpaz on July 12, 2014, 12:29:29 PM
I think I have a No. 53 , Now I'll look closer at it. I really enjoy your contributions. Glad you joined up.
Someday I'd like an article on photos. What kind of camera and how you get such clear close ups.
Thanks
again.
Thank you, Lost -- most photographs were taken by me using a hand held Pentax Optio W10 digital camera (in Macro mode) with the tools illuminated by natural day light. Of late I have been using my Iphone in a similar fashion with practically the same results.

James
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: jpaz on July 12, 2014, 12:36:11 PM
Thank you Art Rafael, Ibgradwell, Batz & eddie hudson for those nice comments.

James
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: jpaz on July 12, 2014, 01:04:29 PM
WOW!! Nice collection, Thanks for all the info.. very professional presentations..
Do you do this type of presentations for a living or hobby?.. (you could publish your work).
Thanks oldtools. I originally started writing web pages as a way of disseminating information relating to my primary pursuits - calligraphy and bookbinding. Web page writing and publishing then became a hobby in itself -- inexpensive, easy, fun .......... and any idiot can do it -- I did!!  :smiley:

I have expanded my web page writing to  many of my other pursuits: Roman Imperial coins, Vintage Woodworking Tools (I am not a collector, just an assembler of the favorite tools I have owned and used over the years) with a passion for vintage North Bros. "YANKEE" tools and vintage Starrett precision measuring tools -- I just love old tools in general.

I like to embark on research projects -- the information I post here is based on research I conducted when writing my tool web pages .......... perusing old catalogs and period ads, (I have a very large collection), studying my own tools and those of fellow enthusiasts, scouring e-bay and Etsy -- and my own fading remembrances of my time in the woodworking trade.

If you would like to access any of my web pages they are at: http://jp29.org/

James
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: jpaz on July 12, 2014, 01:23:07 PM
Dang!!  This is more than I've ever seen about hammers in one place, and a lot that I didn't know.  Impressive!

Got more?  More about hammers?  More about Atha tools?  I picked up a 4# Atha drilling hammer head at a junk store a couple of
years ago.   $4, 4#, clearly marked cast steel and Atha.  I have a tiny claw hammer maybe 3 oz with the Atha mark too.  And hammers?  I can't seem to bring myself to leave one behind.  I just put a handle on an old Plumb, and it feels so good in the hand!   There's a couple of kinda streamlined 16 oz claw hammers that I know little about -- one is marked Dynamic.  Stilettos from 13 to 28 oz...

What a great bunch of information you have shared with us.

Yep, glad you joined up.
Thank you for that post Branson and your most kind comments. Yes, I do love hammers! I will post more info relating to Atha (that I think manufactured especially fine blacksmith's tools) but first some information relating to vintage Plumb hammers (for which I also have great fondness):

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Plumb claw hammers

Plumb Claw Hammers were noteworthy for their quality and durability.

The Fayette R. Plumb Co. advertised its hammers, axes and hatchets aggressively with colorful, high quality ads. in numerous major national magazines throughout the 1920s & 193os. These ads. frequently highlighted the red mahogany stained hickory handles and black heads that distinctively identified their products.

Fayette R. Plumb and the companies he controlled had a rich history fron 1869 until somewhere between 1959 and 1971 when the Fayette R. Plumb Co. was sold and ceased to exist. That history is well illustrated on this nicely illustrated Web Page of YesterYears Tools (http://www.yesteryearstools.com/Yesteryears%20Tools/Plumb%20Co..html)

The Fayette R. Plumb Co. also produced various other types of hammers, sledges, hatchets and axes of the highest quality, the latter being much favored by professional axemen for competition events. Specially made Plumb hatchets were used by Boy Scouts throughout the world.

Fayette R. Plumb Co. Claw Hammers were marked PLUMB within a rectangle stamped on one of the head cheeks:

(http://jp29.org/plumb39x.jpg)

(http://jp29.org/plumb40x.jpg)

The stamping was sometimes accompanied by the hammer weight in ounces or USA etc. outside the rectangle. A great variety of colorful decals were affixed to the handles but these quickly wore off in normal hammer use.

The much admired and distinctive red mahogany stained hickory handles ..........

(http://jp29.org/plumb38x.jpg)

.......... sometimes broke under heavy usage and it is not unusual to find vintage hammers with replacement handles.

The Fayette R. Plumb Co. was patriotic in the way they decorated many of their products. A famous marking is the VICTORY stamping on the cheeks of some hammers -- accompanying the PLUMB stamp within the rectangle -- supposedly to commemorate the end of WWII.

(http://jp29.org/plumb28.jpg)

I have not been able to verify this story to date. The finish on the specimens I have examined -- including the one I own -- is not up to the usual PLUMB high standard. It is possible these hammers were manufactured in 1944-1945 in anticipation of the coming victory, however, that is just speculation.

James
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: oldtools on July 12, 2014, 03:39:40 PM
Thank you for posting, very interesting...
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: bear_man on July 13, 2014, 01:55:35 AM
Thanks very much for your contribution/s, jpaz!
     I learned long ago (I disremember exactly where/when, other than it was back in the late-'70s/early-'80s) to call your "Curved Claw Nail Hammer" a "crow-head hammer," and the rip-head a rip-head.  Any comment on this?
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Branson on July 13, 2014, 07:37:41 AM

Thank you for that post Branson and your most kind comments. Yes, I do love hammers! I will post more info relating to Atha (that I think manufactured especially fine blacksmith's tools) but first some information relating to vintage Plumb hammers (for which I also have great fondness):
< big snip here> The much admired and distinctive red mahogany stained hickory handles ..........
James

Interesting and exceeding timely.  I've been staring at the lily white new handle on the Plumb hammer I mentioned, wondering how to cure that look.  Now I remember those red mahogany stained handles!  Have red mahogany stain, and I'm gonna fix all that white today!  Many thanks again.
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Branson on July 13, 2014, 07:43:54 AM
Remembering more, thanks to the ads you posted.  That red mahogany stain was on my grandfather's 2# ax.  The handle did break, and I replaced it but kept some of the handle to use for other handle projects.  So I have an original example of the stain to compare for the new handle on the hammer.
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: scottg on July 13, 2014, 10:41:30 AM
   I really liked the Atha/Stanley article. I poured over every word of it.
Thanks for sharing it with us.  It was a just treat.
  Cool Plumb ads too. Thanks

 So I couldn't help but notice you seem to be into factory handles?
  (I understand looking for the decals.) 
 
  I always ask this. Its nothing personal at all, I am just perpetually curious.

  The great legion (overwhelming majority) of tool collectors, all want factory work. Its factory work and factory paint and factory wood, that they all want.
     Value follows how exactly close the article still is, to factory work. Many times a flawless factory example commands a --very-- high price, when another tool of exactly the same age and construction, with only slight wear, is deemed worthless.
 
   There is such an extraordinary value on factory work, that people sometimes fake factory work.
  Great pains are extended to differentiate genuine minimum wage factory work from individual work.
   Why do you suppose that is?
 
  Have you personally ever worked in a factory?
  I have, and there is not a single solitary person in the the entire complex who really wants to be there.  In a word, its horrible. Its bad pay and bad conditions and high pressure to keep up production.
 Little good to be said of it at all, really.
 
    So why then, do so many people admire nothing else but factory work?
 Compared to even lightly skilled custom work, no factory ever came close to that skill level.  Custom work is often graced with high quality materials and elaborate, highly skilled decorative work.

  And yet, new condition factory work is the overwhelming favorite of most collectors.
          Why?
       
      yours Scott 
   
 
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: jpaz on July 13, 2014, 12:19:02 PM
   I really liked the Atha/Stanley article. I poured over every word of it.
Thanks for sharing it with us.  It was a just treat.
  Cool Plumb ads too. Thanks ..........
Thank you Scott - you are most welcome.

Quote
.......... So I couldn't help but notice you seem to be into factory handles? .......... The great legion (overwhelming majority) of tool collectors, all want factory work. Its factory work and factory paint and factory wood .......... And yet, new condition factory work is the overwhelming favorite of most collectors ...........
I am not a tool collector, Scott  - I have assembled a selection of hand tools that are representative of those I have owned and used (and cherished) during my lifetime. I have become a researcher of vintage hand tools and factory originality is of great importance in that endeavor. And I do personally like them that way. Not pristine, mind you, but just original configuration - labels and decals are not necessary, but they are a desirable nicety for me.

James
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Art Rafael on July 13, 2014, 01:16:13 PM
Very interesting and timely for me too.  I've been on a hammer kick lately since I took a commission to build some miniatures.  I am drawn to your pictures repeatedly, though framing hammers were requested and are nearly done.   Ralph
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: jpaz on July 13, 2014, 08:11:23 PM
Thanks very much for your contribution/s, jpaz!
     I learned long ago (I disremember exactly where/when, other than it was back in the late-'70s/early-'80s) to call your "Curved Claw Nail Hammer" a "crow-head hammer," and the rip-head a rip-head.  Any comment on this?
Thanks bear_man. When I was working in the trade we always called them "claw hammers" - "nail hammers" is the name Stanley identified them by in their catalogs. We didn't use any ripping hammers.

James
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: jpaz on July 13, 2014, 08:15:50 PM
Very interesting and timely for me too.  I've been on a hammer kick lately since I took a commission to build some miniatures.  I am drawn to your pictures repeatedly, though framing hammers were requested and are nearly done.   Ralph
Thanks Ralph. I hope you post some pics of your creations.

James
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: rusty on July 14, 2014, 05:47:31 PM
Stray bit...

I stumbled across an ad for Stanly hammers in Pop Sci, it shows an autobody hammer, with the atha logo on it. I didn't even know Stanley offered autobody hammers...

http://books.google.com/books?id=xSgDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA119
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: jpaz on July 14, 2014, 09:47:04 PM
Stray bit...

I stumbled across an ad for Stanly hammers in Pop Sci, it shows an autobody hammer, with the atha logo on it. I didn't even know Stanley offered autobody hammers...

http://books.google.com/books?id=xSgDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA119
Rusty:  all 1930s and 1940s Stanley catalogs had fifty pages or so listing all kinds of tools and implements (including hammers) for the blacksmith, tinsmith, railroad maintenance, farrier, automotive repair, auotobody repair and machinist trades. Most of them bore ATHA markings as depicted in the ad you reference.

James
       
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: mikeswrenches on July 15, 2014, 09:20:09 AM
I have seen exactly one Stanley body hammer.  The typical round face on one end, and square face on the other.  I don't think it had an Atha mark on it...just Stanley.

They don't appear to be real common, certainly not like the Fairmounts, Bonney, Bluepoint, and Snap-on that I see.

Mike
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Chillylulu on July 15, 2014, 10:41:24 AM
Another great article!

Are you retired?  Would you mind sharing what you did, especially as it relates to those tools?

Chilly
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Chillylulu on July 15, 2014, 11:06:10 AM

  Have you personally ever worked in a factory?
  I have, and there is not a single solitary person in the the entire complex who really wants to be there.  In a word, its horrible. Its bad pay and bad conditions and high pressure to keep up production.
 Little good to be said of it at all, really.
 
    So why then, do so many people admire nothing else but factory work?
 Compared to even lightly skilled custom work, no factory ever came close to that skill level.  Custom work is often graced with high quality materials and elaborate, highly skilled decorative work.

  And yet, new condition factory work is the overwhelming favorite of most collectors.
          Why?
       
      yours Scott 
   

I can see both sides.  If you seriously collect anything the best you can get is the closest to the way it was as it came from the factory. It has a lot to do with rarity, but artistry, quality, verification of production methods, and focus.

I personally feel that there is a very wide range in quality when looking at vintage tools. Especially when compared to their modern equivalent. I won't even go into the difference between domestic products and tools manufactured elsewhere. Well, maybe a little, because some countries equal American products. But countries where quality is less important than price are prevalent.

So - factory fresh is rare and preferred by most when they can get it.

That being said, I'd rather have a Grandstaff handled tool on the wall than a factory handled equivalent regardless.  Your work is exceptional, most is not. Some looks good but the wood type is inappropriate. One-offs are hard to compare to other work in a price guide.  Most collectors aren't experts, but they are headed in that direction.

Ideally, I think a factory example with a ScottG (or equivalent) artist improved example is ideal.

Chilly
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: jpaz on July 15, 2014, 06:38:46 PM
Another great article!

Are you retired?  Would you mind sharing what you did, especially as it relates to those tools?

Chilly
Thank you Chilly. I have been retired (Industrial Engineer - Aircraft Manufacturing Systems) for some twenty five years now.

I was employed in the woodworking trade in the post WW2 1940s as a draftsman and an apprentice/craftsman truck cab and body builder - here is how: Building wooden flat bed truck bodies (http://jp29.org/wwmaketruck.htm)

James
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Branson on July 18, 2014, 12:50:17 PM
Well, James, thanks to you I now have a Plumb finishing hammer with an appropriately stained new handle.  Looks pretty.  In fact, it looked so good that I used the mahogany stain on a little farrier's hammer that was also looking too pale.

Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: jpaz on July 18, 2014, 11:43:33 PM
Well, James, thanks to you I now have a Plumb finishing hammer with an appropriately stained new handle.  Looks pretty.  In fact, it looked so good that I used the mahogany stain on a little farrier's hammer that was also looking too pale.
Great stuff, Branson!

James
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Branson on August 28, 2014, 07:40:52 PM
Since I was taking pictures and making them fit with a program my step son added to my computer (and is teaching me how to use the thing),  here's a picture of the Plum hammer with its new, red mahogany stained handle.  Quite happy with it.  Beneath it is a 13 oz Stiletto that looks suspiciously similar.  Quite a pair, and they've earned permanent places on my work bench.
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Chuck Stevenson on September 25, 2016, 07:16:33 PM
New member. I am trying to find when this Stanley 13oz was made. I looked up Stanley logos but no joy.

(http://)

I hope the pic posted. It was my fathers. 1911-2001, and it is my shop hammer.

Chuck
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Papaw on September 25, 2016, 07:22:06 PM
Welcome to Tool Talk!
Find the Introduction Forum and tell us a bit about yourself and your tool interests.

Can't help on the hammer, but tell me about that corner clamp in your picture. The clamp at top right of the picture frame.
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Chuck Stevenson on September 25, 2016, 08:04:55 PM
Thanks for the welcome. I will check out the intro thread and fill out my profile soon.

That is a Collins clamp.

http://www.collinstool.com/base.php?page=collins_miter_clamps.htm

Part of a floor inlay.

Chuck

Edit: Sorry for the duplicate pic.
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Yadda on September 25, 2016, 10:57:50 PM
Thanks for the welcome. I will check out the intro thread and fill out my profile soon.

That is a Collins clamp.

http://www.collinstool.com/base.php?page=collins_miter_clamps.htm

Part of a floor inlay.

Chuck

Edit: Sorry for the duplicate pic.

I learned something today.  Thanks Chuck!
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: jpaz on September 30, 2016, 11:42:31 AM
I have added a "Atha Hammer General Notes" page at

http://jp29.org/atha.htm

It provides some historical notes relating to the Atha Tool Company and includes  information relating to Atha Blacksmith hammers.

James
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: jpaz on September 30, 2016, 12:28:21 PM
New member. I am trying to find when this Stanley 13oz was made. I looked up Stanley logos but no joy.

(http://)

I hope the pic posted. It was my fathers. 1911-2001, and it is my shop hammer.

Chuck
Hello Chuck. It looks like a circa. 1950s - 1960s production hammer to me.

James
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Chuck Stevenson on September 30, 2016, 12:50:22 PM

Hello Chuck. It looks like a circa. 1950s - 1960s production hammer to me.

Thanks James.
I thought that is an older Stanley logo. The head looks similar to the hammer head in your earlier link.

Chuck
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: jpaz on September 30, 2016, 03:49:47 PM

Hello Chuck. It looks like a circa. 1950s - 1960s production hammer to me.

Thanks James.
I thought that is an older Stanley logo. The head looks similar to the hammer head in your earlier link.

Chuck
You are welcome, Chuck. If it was a pre-WW2 manufactured hammer it would bear a yellow Stanley-Atha decal.

James
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Chuck Stevenson on September 30, 2016, 03:59:50 PM
Thanks James.
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Nasutushenri on October 01, 2016, 10:06:51 AM
I have added a "Atha Hammer General Notes" page at

http://jp29.org/atha.htm

It provides some historical notes relating to the Atha Tool Company and includes  information relating to Atha Blacksmith hammers.

James

Very interesting page.

Have a rather different ATHA hammer (1lb. 3 oz.) with trademark stamp style 4 on head RIGHT cheek and J.ROSE CAST STEEL stamped on LEFT cheek.

Recently on eBay was a hatchet with the same J.ROSE stamp, but no further information was given.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-J-ROSE-Axe-Hatchet-Very-Old-Patinalate-late-1800s-/112089878840?rmvSB=true&clk_rvr_id=1103183739231&nma=true&si=h%252FNyqmTfoASCUoVsb1UU3h2vdvk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

So my question is who was J.ROSE ?

Henri
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: jpaz on October 01, 2016, 11:34:38 AM
I have added a "Atha Hammer General Notes" page at

http://jp29.org/atha.htm

It provides some historical notes relating to the Atha Tool Company and includes  information relating to Atha Blacksmith hammers.

James

Very interesting page.

Have a rather different ATHA hammer (1lb. 3 oz.) with trademark stamp style 4 on head RIGHT cheek and J.ROSE CAST STEEL stamped on LEFT cheek.

Recently on eBay was a hatchet with the same J.ROSE stamp, but no further information was given.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-J-ROSE-Axe-Hatchet-Very-Old-Patinalate-late-1800s-/112089878840?rmvSB=true&clk_rvr_id=1103183739231&nma=true&si=h%252FNyqmTfoASCUoVsb1UU3h2vdvk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

So my question is who was J.ROSE ?

Henri
Thank you for that very interesting post, Henri. I do not know who J. ROSE was.

James
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Nasutushenri on October 02, 2016, 07:58:45 AM


Very interesting page.

Have a rather different ATHA hammer (1lb. 3 oz.) with trademark stamp style 4 on head RIGHT cheek and J.ROSE CAST STEEL stamped on LEFT cheek.

Recently on eBay was a hatchet with the same J.ROSE stamp, but no further information was given.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-J-ROSE-Axe-Hatchet-Very-Old-Patinalate-late-1800s-/112089878840?rmvSB=true&clk_rvr_id=1103183739231&nma=true&si=h%252FNyqmTfoASCUoVsb1UU3h2vdvk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

So my question is who was J.ROSE ?

Henri
Thank you for that very interesting post, Henri. I do not know who J. ROSE was.

James

Thanks, James for answering. Unfortunately the J.ROSE-mistery remains.

Henri
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: TCDA on February 26, 2021, 10:18:09 AM
Hello folks, I stumbled across this forum specifically looking for more information on dating Stanley claw hammers. I notice the information posted by the original author, jpaz, suggests there might have been photos accompanying the wealth of knowledge he shared. It also appears he had a website expanding on his original post. Both the photos and his website aren't available. I'm hoping maybe someone saved the photos along with his original post? Thanks for your time!
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Papaw on February 26, 2021, 05:13:27 PM





THE ATHA TOOL CO. AND ATHA NAIL HAMMERS

The Atha Tool Co. - located in Newark, New Jersey - was founded in 1884. The Company manufactured and supplied to the blacksmith, railroad maintenance, farrier, automotive repair, machinist, bricklayer, stone cutter and various woodworking trades a wide range of metal and woodworking hand tools - hammers, cold chisels, punches, anvil inserts, sledges, tongs, wedges, forming tools, hatchets, et al. The company established an enviable reputation for design excellence and superior quality and their tools were in great demand especially by blacksmiths. The Atha Tool company - along with their entire line of tools - was acquired by Stanley in 1913, a tremendous addition to the latter company's tool offerings. It appears that at first the Atha Tool company operated independently from the Stanley company and separate catalogs were issued bearing their name. However, in the 1920s Atha tools were gradually incorporated into the Stanley catalogs and the tools were identified as Stanley-Atha throughout the 1920s and 1930s.

Atha nail hammers produced prior to the 1913 Stanley acquisition are stamped on the left cheek of the nicely finished and polished heads with the company logo - an upside down horseshoe with a capital letter A in the center. These Atha nail hammers featured lacquer finished straight grain light colored hickory handles as did subsequent Stanley-Atha hammers.


Atha nail hammer circa. 1900


Atha logo stamped on left cheek of hammer

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

STANLEY-ATHA NAIL HAMMERS - 1920s TO PRE-WWII 1940s

There was a bewildering succession of model designations and numbering systems - including numerous prefixes and suffixes - for these hammers that was constantly changing during their early production life so I will keep the designations here quite general. The entire numbering system was changed in 1933.

All Stanley-Atha hammers were stamped on the left cheek of the head with the familiar STANLEY within a cartouche logo - sometimes MADE IN USA stamping was appended although this was inconsistent. This variance is also found in catalog illustrations although it should be noted that those illustrations do not always depict actual production tools. There was no Atha stamping on Stanley-Atha hammer heads. Informational decals were affixed to the handles of all new Stanley-Atha hammers - and they are very important identifiers that should be preserved at all cost - even fragments of them - for it is the only way to positively identify Stanley-Atha hammers! Handles were of straight grained hickory and were lacquer finished. The factory applied handle decals soon wore off with use, but the presence of even scant remnants is testament to the originality of handles. The model number, configuration and head weight were often stamped in black ink on the end of the handle - invaluable information all to often lost due to hammer usage. The presence of the distinctive Stanley factory head securing wedges is a good indicator of originality.


Decal that was affixed to the handle of all Stanley-Atha nail hammers
Note the Atha Tool Co. logo on the left


Typical Stanley-Atha nail hammer showing placement of decal on handle


STANLEY in cartouche stamped on left cheek of hammer head


Model designation (41½) and head weight (16oz) stamped in black ink
on the end of the handle

Stanley-Atha tack hammers were sometimes employed by wood workers for fine finishing work including installation of leather or fabric coverings. I have included one here in order to illustrate various Stanley-Atha hammer features.


Typical Stanley-Atha tack hammer showing placement of decal on handle


The factory applied handle decals soon wore off with use, but the
presence of even scant remnants (as here) is an important identifier


STANLEY with MADE IN USA stamped on left cheek of hammer head


Model number (601) stamped in black ink on the end of the

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

STANLEY NAIL HAMMERS - POST WWII 1940s TO THE 1950s

Post-WWII Stanley nail hammers bore different handle decals than the pre-war Stanley-Atha hammers. The first ones following the end of the war and until circa. 1950 were orange colored and bore a small Atha Tool Company logo on the right





All post-WWII Stanley nail Hammers were designated as such in the Tool catalogs and sales literature - there were no longer any Stanley-Atha references. The familiar STANLEY within a cartouche logo continued to be stamped on the left cheek of the head with MADE IN USA sometimes appended, although this was inconsistent as was a model number, configuration and head weight stamping.

Stampings

Example of a typical head stamping:


(on left cheek of head)
STANLEY
(in cartouche)
No. 51½ 16-OZ
# 5 configuration: bell face - round black neck - polished round poll
W/L code 1½: Head weight: 16 oz. - Overall length: 13"

It seems that Stanley changed the style and form of the stampings from time to time. There are variances similar to those found on Stanley wood chisels. I have encountered hammers of this period with only STANLEY (in cartouche) or STANLEY (in cartouche) with MADE IN USA underneath. These variances can also be found in catalog illustrations although it should be noted that those illustrations do not always depict actual production tools.

Decals

Decals, which sometimes included information relating to features and configuration, were affixed to the handles of new hammers - and sometimes to the right cheek of the head - at the factory.





Handles

Handles were of straight grained hickory and were lacquer finished. The factory applied handle decals soon wore off with use, but the presence of even scant remnants is testament to the originality of handles. The model No. configuration and head weight were usually stamped in black ink on the end of the handle - invaluable information all to often lost due to hammer usage. The presence of the distinctive Stanley factory head securing wedges is a good indicator of originality.

Remnant of label on handle:



Ink stamping on end of handle:



Depictions of original Stanley factory head securing wedges:





Claw Types


Curved Claw Nail Hammer


Ripping Claw Nail Hammer

There was also a "semi-ripping" style offered that had slightly more curvature than the standard Ripping Claw depicted.

Stanley Nail Hammer Configurations

    1 ..... bell face - round ribbed neck and poll - highly polished - 100 Plus
    2 ..... same as 1 except ripping claw instead of curved - 100 Plus
    3 ..... bell face - octagon black neck - octagon poll - highly polished
    4 ..... plain face - plain neck - highly finished
    5 ..... bell face - round black neck - polished round poll
    9 ..... plain face - plain neck
    10 ... bell face - round black neck with polished ribs - polished round poll

Those models described as having black (enamel paint) necks inevitably came with the tops and bottoms of the heads and the backs of the claws also painted black. The paint on the necks in particular often gradually wore off with heavy use and in consequence was sometimes sanded off entirely by users for a better appearance. "100 PLUS" hammers were described in some 1930s catalogs as having "orange enamel painted head ribs", however, I have only encountered red painted ribs.

Stanley Nail Hammer head weight and overall length (W/L) codes

    0 ............. 28 oz. ........... 15"
    1 ............. 20 oz. ........... 13½"
    1½ ......... 16 oz. ........... 13"
    2 ............. 13 oz. ........... 13"
    2½ ......... 10 oz. ........... 12½"
    3 ................ 7 oz. ........... 12"
    4 ................ 5 oz. ........... 12"

Weight is of the head only -- length is overall (top of head to bottom of handle).

EXEMPLAR STANLEY NAIL HAMMERS OF THIS PERIOD

100 PLUS

1 SERIES: bell face - round ribbed neck and poll - highly polished

2 SERIES: same as 1 SERIES except ripping claw instead of curved



No. 100 plus 11½
# 1 configuration: bell face - octagon neck and poll- highly polished
W/L code 1½: Head weight: 16 oz - Overall length: 13"
white lacquered hickory handle with octagon neck.



No. 100 plus 11½
# 1 configuration: bell face - octagon neck and poll- highly polished
W/L code 1½: Head weight: 16 oz - Overall length: 13"

The handle on this specimen has been replaced at some time in its working life.

"100 plus" series hammers were designated "the Aristocrats" of Nail Hammers by Stanley.

4 SERIES: plain face - plain neck - highly finished



No. 43
# 4 configuration: plain face - plain neck - highly finished
W/L code 3: Head weight: 7 oz - Overall length: 12"

5 SERIES: bell face - round black neck - polished round poll


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No. 51½
# 5 configuration: bell face - round black neck - polished round poll
W/L code 1½: Head weight: 16 oz - Overall length: 13"



No. 53
# 5 configuration: bell face - round black neck - polished round poll
W/L code 3: Head weight: 7 oz - Overall length: 12"

Series 5 Stanley Nail Hammers - with the 51½ (16 oz) leading the way - were the most popular and best selling models. They were always featured on the first hammer page in the main Stanley Tools Catalogs.

10 SERIES: bell face - round black neck with polished ribs - polished round poll



No. 101
# 10 configuration: bell face - round black neck with polished ribs - polished round poll
W/L code 1: Head weight: 20 oz - Overall length: 13½"

James






My Vintage Woodworking Hand Tools pages




 
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: Mike H on March 07, 2021, 06:14:09 AM
Is anyone else having trouble seeing the pics in the OP?
Also, when I click one of the links I go to a
reverse phone number lookup page??!
Maybe it's time I get rid of this Chrome browser.
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: mikeswrenches on March 07, 2021, 07:06:39 AM
Is anyone else having trouble seeing the pics in the OP?
Also, when I click one of the links I go to a
reverse phone number lookup page??!
Maybe it's time I get rid of this Chrome browser.

Hi Mike, I’m not getting any pictures either, but if I remember correctly, they don’t always show up on these old posts. I’m using Safari on an ipad so i don’t think it’s Chrome that is the problem.

Mike
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: four.cycle on March 07, 2021, 10:31:00 AM
MikeH: I just now saw this thread for the first time, and I am also not seeing any photo images in the first post, and the hyperlinks take me to the same "reverse look up" page . As mikeswrenches says, it's doubtful that the problem is your browser.
Excellent write-up in the first post and the subsequent post on Plumb.
I only have a few pages of 1915 and 1926 Atha catalogs, but the images are too large to post here. I just posted them on my flickr.com page HERE:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/79622803@N02/51012780011/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/79622803@N02/51012827316/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/79622803@N02/51012870337/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/79622803@N02/51012870317/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/79622803@N02/51012779906/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/79622803@N02/51012062763/in/dateposted-public/

There's a bit more information on Atha here:
Atha / Atha Tool Co. / http://alloy-artifacts.org/other-makers.html#atha / http://toolarchives.com/index.php/node/20 / 

It looks like they've got a few pages of the 1901 "Atha" catalog at the International Tool Catalog Library HERE:
https://archive.org/details/AthaToolCo1901

(No doubt the site is rife with Stanley information as well.)

I am currently in the process of devising a means to disseminate the information I've gathered to a broader audience, but it will most likely be some time in coming. If you wish hard copies of those Atha pages, contact me via email - the address is in my user profile.
Title: Re: Stanley nail hammers
Post by: TCDA on March 13, 2021, 01:46:12 PM
I used an internet archive to find the original webpage, with photos, of the gentleman ("jpaz" aka James) who started this thread. It appeared James assembled a diverse collection of knowledge from Atha/Stanley hammers to Starrett tools and more. I hope this links work:

"Atha/Stanley History": https://web.archive.org/web/20161110191706/http://jp29.org/wwstanhammer.htm

"Vintage Tool Wood Working Handtools": https://web.archive.org/web/20161012135145/http://jp29.org/wwtools.htm

Let me know if the links don't work and I'll try taking some screenshots. The Atha/Stanley page was my primary objective for dating a Stanley 41-1/2 of my own. While I failed to pin down a date, I did confirm it has the factory handle and wedges.