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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: HeelSpur on July 05, 2014, 06:05:07 PM

Title: F.E. Lindstrom Crimpers
Post by: HeelSpur on July 05, 2014, 06:05:07 PM

Was doing a little investigating on these crimpers and the ones I saw on ebay are all marked "Bell" and have a locking devise at the handles end. So I take it only Bell System crimpers have this extra feature. Haven't found any pics of the one I have yet, w/o the locking devise.
So, am I correct to assume this was requested by Bell?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Lindstrom-Bell-System-Wire-Splicing-Clamp-Pliers-Lineman-Tool-Linesman-/141317412294?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20e72c95c6

(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j368/wvabe/020-1.jpg)
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j368/wvabe/021-1.jpg)

Title: Re: F.E. Lindstrom Crimpers
Post by: international3414 on July 05, 2014, 07:30:27 PM

i dont know the answer,but how are these used,,are they used in conjunction with another similar pair,arnt they for twisting?

Title: Re: F.E. Lindstrom Crimpers
Post by: turnnut on July 05, 2014, 08:19:16 PM

is there a hole at the end of one handle ?
one handle looks like it has a outward curve where a catch would latch

Title: Re: F.E. Lindstrom Crimpers
Post by: Aunt Phil on July 06, 2014, 12:11:00 AM

Look up Western Union splice.

Seem to recall having explained it here before.

Title: Re: F.E. Lindstrom Crimpers
Post by: HeelSpur on July 06, 2014, 05:27:51 PM

Quote from: turnnut on July 05, 2014, 08:19:16 PM

is there a hole at the end of one handle ?
one handle looks like it has a outward curve where a catch would latch

No, both handles are solid.

Title: Re: F.E. Lindstrom Crimpers
Post by: HeelSpur on July 06, 2014, 05:40:27 PM

Found this thread while searching western union splice.
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/ot-how-klein-splicing-crimping-tool-used-257902/

Now I gotta find another pair.

Title: Re: F.E. Lindstrom Crimpers
Post by: Chillylulu on July 06, 2014, 06:38:18 PM

Quote from: HeelSpur on July 06, 2014, 05:40:27 PM

Found this thread while searching western union splice.
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/ot-how-klein-splicing-crimping-tool-used-257902/

Now I gotta find another pair.

There is a pair at an antique mall by me.

I'll see what they want for it tomorrow.

The booth was run by an avid collecter.  He passed a decade or so ago and his wife keeps it up. She generally charges way too much, but I have bought several things from her in the past that were priced close enough. 

She has several tools that I almost covet.  A #2 Stanley in great shape, a mossberg socket set, and a few more.

Update tomorrow.

Chilly

Title: Re: F.E. Lindstrom Crimpers
Post by: turnnut on July 06, 2014, 08:04:22 PM

Chilly, try the old bundling game, point out various items that you want at a reduced price and explain to her that it would make room to show fresh items.

Title: Re: F.E. Lindstrom Crimpers
Post by: Chillylulu on July 08, 2014, 03:38:45 AM

Quote from: Chillylulu on July 06, 2014, 06:38:18 PM

Quote from: HeelSpur on July 06, 2014, 05:40:27 PM

Found this thread while searching western union splice.
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/ot-how-klein-splicing-crimping-tool-used-257902/

Now I gotta find another pair.

There is a pair at an antique mall by me.

I'll see what they want for it tomorrow.

The booth was run by an avid collecter.  He passed a decade or so ago and his wife keeps it up. She generally charges way too much, but I have bought several things from her in the past that were priced close enough. 

She has several tools that I almost covet.  A #2 Stanley in great shape, a mossberg socket set, and a few more.

Update tomorrow.

Chilly

Here they are:

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/chillylulu/Tools%20Sized/july%20tools/7-7-2014ToolsISized_zps17bcc06d.jpg) (http://s880.photobucket.com/user/chillylulu/media/Tools%20Sized/july%20tools/7-7-2014ToolsISized_zps17bcc06d.jpg.html)
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/chillylulu/Tools%20Sized/july%20tools/LindstromLineTwistingPliersDetailsized_zpsbd07042e.jpg) (http://s880.photobucket.com/user/chillylulu/media/Tools%20Sized/july%20tools/LindstromLineTwistingPliersDetailsized_zpsbd07042e.jpg.html)


I bought them from her.  She is not cheap, and I usually don't bargain. I paid $15.00 plus tax. E-bay sold is $12.99 to $16.15.

Heelspur - they're yours if you want them just PM me. Otherwise, I'll throw them in with my pliers. Here are a few of mine on my bench right now, several Lindstrom, including the white handled bow tying pliers on the right. I bought that pair new a couple yrs ago. (I think they were over $60 new. One of the reasons I like vintage tools.) This group represents less than half of my own "users". These are mostly smaller and non-toothed pliers for bench work, except the middle pile.

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/chillylulu/Tools%20Sized/july%20tools/BenchPliersSized_zps60152e8a.jpg) (http://s880.photobucket.com/user/chillylulu/media/Tools%20Sized/july%20tools/BenchPliersSized_zps60152e8a.jpg.html)



Chilly

Title: Re: F.E. Lindstrom Crimpers
Post by: Bus on July 17, 2014, 03:52:22 PM

I'm working on the Fall Wrenching News Wrench Auction (El Dorado, KS Oct 24 & 25, 2014) and found a box of these wire clamps or crimpers from the wire tool collection of the King Herrington (Aurora, Colorado) Estate.  So far I have cataloged over 20 of them. Markings include Western Union Telegraph Co, Dickie, Smith & Hemenway, Bell System, Peck, Stow & Wilcox, M. Klein & Sons, M. Klein & Son and several unmarked examples.

Photos of all the wrenches I ahve cataloged so far are at:
http://wrenchingnews.com/2014-fall-auction/all-pics-one-page.html (http://wrenchingnews.com/2014-fall-auction/all-pics-one-page.html)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd3/buswrench/fall-2014/F14-CB-037-39.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd3/buswrench/fall-2014/F14-CB-040-42.jpg)

Title: Re: F.E. Lindstrom Crimpers
Post by: Plyerman on July 17, 2014, 09:48:48 PM

Nice! I had no idea there were that many different ones.

Title: Re: F.E. Lindstrom Crimpers
Post by: Chillylulu on July 17, 2014, 10:32:52 PM

Hey, I  live in Aurora Colorado......

Chilly

Title: Re: F.E. Lindstrom Crimpers
Post by: Bus on July 17, 2014, 11:02:46 PM

Quote from: Chillylulu on July 17, 2014, 10:32:52 PM

Hey, I  live in Aurora Colorado......
Chilly

Did you know King Herrington?

Title: Re: F.E. Lindstrom Crimpers
Post by: Chillylulu on July 18, 2014, 12:14:46 AM

Quote from: Bus on July 17, 2014, 11:02:46 PM

Quote from: Chillylulu on July 17, 2014, 10:32:52 PM

Hey, I  live in Aurora Colorado......
Chilly

Did you know King Herrington?

No, when it comes to tool people I know family, some other fitters, and you guys.

You people are the tool  people I talk about tools with.  Man, I need to get out a bit, huh?

Title: Re: F.E. Lindstrom Crimpers
Post by: JoeCB on July 18, 2014, 11:05:59 AM

You guys are good!  I could never figure out why the locking feature on "crimpers" ... but for twisting oh ya'
My rule when trying to figure the use for any unknown tool is to look closely for the not so obvious details or features... the designer didn't put that stuff on there for decoration, usually a functional feature that leads to understanding how the tool was to be used.
Thanks

Joe

Title: Re: F.E. Lindstrom Crimpers
Post by: Aunt Phil on July 18, 2014, 01:12:43 PM

There may not be a hell of a lot of Western Union splices being wound these days, fact is I've spoken with young college trained linemen who have no damn idea what one is, but those winders come in handy as hell to grip plastic tubing as well when you have arthritis and need to shove a fitting in the tubing.  I know 2 people who have a pair just for that purpose.

Title: Re: F.E. Lindstrom Crimpers
Post by: oldtools on July 18, 2014, 07:16:04 PM

It's neat that some tools can flip around for more sizes...

Title: Re: F.E. Lindstrom Crimpers
Post by: bear_man on July 19, 2014, 02:04:43 AM

In the mid-'60s I was taught by an olde guy to splice barbed wire with what he called a "telegraph lineman's splice," because it never broke from simply being pushed on by livestock nor stretch/sag from the summer heat/winter cold movement.  Lots of folks bend the two wires together in a "U" and then wrap the free ends around themselves — a sure recipe for a failed fence section in the future, as I dealt with when repairing such splices on my own place.