Tool Talk
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: RedVise on May 11, 2014, 03:46:06 PM
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Picked up a wedge shaped hammer this weekend.
Looks like it is from Worcester , Company name looks like St something,
and the patent date is not clear either.
Note the hole running thru the head...
Any clues on this one ?
Brian
Also neat oil can and more chisels, one from Sheffield.
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Weird. Don't know of any hammer makers in Worcester.
Long wedge, long handle, uselessly short head, makes me think tire bead breaker..
Vaguely like 2525429
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Looks like it is from St Pierre MFG , located in Worcester MA.
Brian
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>St Pierre MFG .
Used to make chain...
Hmm, perhaps a (big) chain breaker?
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Got two of these, both of which have been kept sharp, and work at the forge as chisels. In fact, one came with a bunch of tools I bought from an old blacksmith.
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Branson, mine is small. They work as chisels ? Obviously I have no metal work background...
Brian
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St. Pierre made tire chain pliers along with the chains. Maybe these were used on really big chains instead of the pliers.
Mike
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To me they look like a smallish version of a Blacksmith's cutter or cutoff tool it would be struck by another larger hammer. so a chain cutter is possible.
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Branson, mine is small. They work as chisels ? Obviously I have no metal work background...
Brian
Mine are small, too. So were the chisels issued with the mountain howitzer -- in fact, about the same size.
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Thanks for the info guys! Now, about that hole in the other end of the hammer... ?
I will try and clean it out tonight.
Brian
PS: them smileys aint doing much for me...
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Thanks for the info guys! Now, about that hole in the other end of the hammer... ?
I will try and clean it out tonight.
Brian
Why, so you can put it on a chain and wear it as a pendent, of course.
Dunno, mine have the hole, too.
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Hole for pin to hold on replaceable face?
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I agree with it being a blacksmith's cutting tool, but whether for "hot work" or "cold," I don't recall the give-away distinctions between the two versions. The one "hammer" — inexact because it was struck by one, not used as one — I used to own was for cold cutting. Maybe the hole was provided to temporarily hold a "pin" to keep it from being driven inside, say, a barrel when one is removing one end of one? Okay, go ahead and sneer or snort — I say that at times there's nothing wrong with blue-sky speculation. *he quick carpes the diem and snorts @&w/ himself*
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I agree with it being a blacksmith's cutting tool, but whether for "hot work" or "cold," I don't recall the give-away distinctions between the two versions. The one "hammer" — inexact because it was struck by one, not used as one — I used to own was for cold cutting. Maybe the hole was provided to temporarily hold a "pin" to keep it from being driven inside, say, a barrel when one is removing one end of one? Okay, go ahead and sneer or snort — I say that at times there's nothing wrong with blue-sky speculation. *he quick carpes the diem and snorts @&w/ himself*
Hot cuts have slimmer blades; cold cuts are hefty to take being hammered into cold metal. I use my little guy for hot cutting. I can maybe see the hole holding a pin, but then, the thing would have had to go through the handle before the pin would do any good...
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Creaser to form the crease when making horseshoes????, I base that on the size. Not enough mass or length to be a hot cut.
The hole is curious, though.
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Creaser to form the crease when making horseshoes????, I base that on the size. Not enough mass or length to be a hot cut.
The hole is curious, though.
Definitely not a creaser -- wrong shape. There were cutters made in about this size, though. The US Army was still issuing them
as late as 1914.
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Is the hole open on one edge?
Thinking wire chain cutter with a place to fold the last link together...
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Is the hole open on one edge?
Thinking wire chain cutter with a place to fold the last link together...
Just a hole through the back end of the head, parallel with the edge.
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Is the hole open on one edge?
Thinking wire chain cutter with a place to fold the last link together...
Just a hole through the back end of the head, parallel with the edge.
Pretty dang sure Branson is spot on, will verify this eveing.
Brian
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I know this is much after the original posts. I got one of these tools and was doing some research on it. I found this site and your posts. I have found the information on this tool at http://google.com/patents/US2226673 It is a welder's chipper patented in 1938 by Thomas St. Pierre of Worcester, Mass. The hole is for the attached brush. Hope this helps anyone looking for identification of this tool.
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Welcome to Tool Talk pa pete!
Find the introduction forum and tell us a bit about yourself and your tool interest.
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I know this is much after the original posts. I got one of these tools and was doing some research on it. I found this site and your posts. I have found the information on this tool at http://google.com/patents/US2226673 It is a welder's chipper patented in 1938 by Thomas St. Pierre of Worcester, Mass. The hole is for the attached brush. Hope this helps anyone looking for identification of this tool.
WOW, looks spot-on!! tell us about yourself..
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Welcome Pete ! Nice work, Thanks for sharing the info !
Brian
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That hole has bothered me for years! Thanks to you pa pete, now I know.
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patent 2226673 was issued Dec. 31, 1940 yes, new years eve someone was working in
the patent office, how times have changed.
looking into the family history of St. Pierre Chain Co. Thomas St. Pierre does not show up.
it is possible that the hammer was made by one of the many co. in Worcester in that period.
St. Pierre Chain & Wire Mfg. Co. is still in bussiness at the same location. (over 80 years)
3rd generation of St. Pierre's are running it. 317 East Mountain St. Worcester, Mass.
they also are still making pitching horseshoes.