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What's-It Forum => What's-It Forum => Topic started by: wvtools on March 17, 2014, 09:25:01 PM
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The first one is a ?? with a patent for Rusty (July 4, 1899), and I think the second ones are sand moulder's tools, but I am not sure.
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Second picture could also be mason tools for finishing block/brick joints.
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First one look s like a bayonet hose connector - sort used to connect a gas appliance to an outlet, e.g. a gas poker, used to light a wood fire. Once the fire is burning the gas poker is switched off and disconnected...
Never seen sand moulders' tools like these - if more polished I'd suggest brass musical instrument tools, for removing dents from the bell...
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You gave me some search ideas, and I came up with Patent 628005, bicycle pump connector. I think that might be it. It must be missing the inside valve/guts.
Here is the link to the Google patents page:
https://www.google.com/patents/US628005?dq=hose+connector+1899+july+4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=P5YoU9TVLbCL0QGntYCAAw&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAQ (https://www.google.com/patents/US628005?dq=hose+connector+1899+july+4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=P5YoU9TVLbCL0QGntYCAAw&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAQ)
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That would hint that S. & Co, NY is Stevens & Co...
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the opening looks like it would fit on a valve stem on the tire.
resembles the end of a tire gauge opening.
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Still trying to figure out what that first one has to do with eclairs...
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Are those Bavarian Cream? They are good!!!
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I did think tyre inflator as well, but the shape of the tube spigot, with a rounded edge make me think low pressure - hand or foot tyre pumps can reach very high pressure when pumping - enough to blow the tube off the spigot. Tyre inflator tube is usually has a braided cover, which does not allow a lot of movement to pass over the spigot, and the spigot s usually have a series of conical grooves and need a jubilee clip to hold the tube in place....
It also looks very much like some tap adaptors used with water hoses, but it seems too smaller to fit most tap spouts, and the hose tail looks too small for garden hose as well...
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First one look s like a bayonet hose connector - sort used to connect a gas appliance to an outlet, e.g. a gas poker, used to light a wood fire. Once the fire is burning the gas poker is switched off and disconnected...
When I first looked at the brass fitting I also thought of gas but I was thinking of laboratory equipment ,Bunsen burners etc. The red rubber inside reminds me of that red rubber hose/tubing we used in the science lab at school! The gas used then was town gas produced at the "gasworks"
Graeme
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in the 1st picture, is there a removable cap on the small end ? left, in picture
if yes, what does it look like inside ?
it sort of resemble patent # 628005
a bicycle pump connection.
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There is no cap on the end or guts inside it. That is the same patent number that I came up with. See my post earlier in the thread.
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The adapter thingamajig looks like it locks on with pins on each side of what it connects to.
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OK, the patent is for Stevens hand pump connector for bicycle tires, 'The Acorn".
The thing above is different, it is for automobile tires.
The description is a bit vague....Would guess Stevens was making it for them for US tho...
Possible it is a French patent....
PS: A complete (apparently) Acorn pump with nipple is at ozwrenches, scroll down about halfway, or search page for 'acorn'
here: http://www.ozwrenches.com/vintage-pumps.htm
Bottom 2 photos from 1907
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Rusty the pic below says it all!
the two casting tools? never seen curved ones but have straight ones.
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Next question: what sort of valve was found on early tubes that the Stevens/Acorn/Eclair connector was used with???? I know that with the modern Schrader type the connector will blow off the valve stem unless it is securely fixed. Does this one need to be held in place when being used???
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One other tidbit, Leon Rubay (corporation) went bankrupt in 1908, they were in New York, so perhaps Stevens (NY) simply aquired rights rather than acting as manufacturer. Another possability that occurs to me here is patent infringment, which would explain the acorn patent number on it. (eg Stevens threatened to sue, and they licenced it under the existing patent)
Leon shows up in the 1920's as a prolific importer of automobiles, and as a maker of custom bodies...
One of the creditors is Lovell-McConnell Mfg co. In a 1910 index they are listed under Eclair.
I have never figured out who was making stuff for Stevens, but this is an interesting hint..
Edit: 1917 Auto Trade Journal lists Eclair under Stevens & Co.
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>what sort of valve
Prior to the 20's every tire maker had their own design for a tire valve, even after schrader monopolized the valve market there were still imports, Michlin, Dunlap had non standard valves because they were imported, Presta valves were smaller and used on bicycle tires...
Before that there were several dozen tire makers, all unique...
(And the tubeless tires took valves determined by the rim, so those folks are involved also)
So a universal coupling makes sense, how well it worked is a different question tho...
I think, from the descriptions that it forces the rubber washer to compress onto the valve stem threads, which would probably work ok, remember, they were not putting 90 pounds of air into those tires...