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What's-It Forum => What's-It Forum => Topic started by: wlwhittier on February 11, 2014, 07:13:51 PM

Title: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: wlwhittier on February 11, 2014, 07:13:51 PM
Well...first I gotta reduce the size of my pics, it seems.

I'm using iPhoto (on an iMac) and haven't had to do that yet, so any suggestions will be welcome!

I'll be back, sooner or later.  wlw
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: Papaw on February 11, 2014, 07:58:53 PM
Welcome to Tool Talk. Any picture hosting site or service will allow you to resize pictures or just post them here with image tags.
A free photo manipulation service that many use is Irfanview-  www.irfanview.com  (http://www.irfanview.com) ,but not sure if it is Mac compatible.
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: wlwhittier on February 11, 2014, 08:10:08 PM
Having the usual, to-be-expected difficulties associated with a new forum and format.  I took new pics (very much smaller file size) and got them under the modified post...but after I hit "save", and then after a long wait, got a server error.  I'll keep trying, and thanks for the welcome.  I'll get it, eventually.  wlw
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: Papaw on February 11, 2014, 08:22:15 PM
We are having server issues that we can't control since we are on free forum software. Try agai and the pictures will post sooner or later.
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: wlwhittier on February 11, 2014, 08:26:38 PM
Wilco...Tomorrow.  Thanks...
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: Plyerman on February 11, 2014, 09:03:57 PM
Hang in there WL, I'm looking  forward to seeing those pictures.  (-:
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: Bill Houghton on February 11, 2014, 11:32:45 PM
Well, based on the pictures I can't see, I'd say it's either a part from a cream separator or a saw sharpener.
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: Billman49 on February 12, 2014, 04:25:48 AM
I find the site often will not accept uploads of images - next day no problem...

There are several ways to reduce image size, I use MS Windows Picture Manager (but that often crashes on my PC), Paint or if all else fails I e-mail it to myself and let Outlook automatically resize it, then use Save As to give it a new name (usually the original name with edit added, so I can refer back to the original image as well if needed)...
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: wlwhittier on February 12, 2014, 07:18:33 PM
THIS DIDN'T POST:

Here we go again! Attach shows my four pics; none more than 250K, less than 800K total.

I'm gonna hit preview, as I don't see an 'Upload' or other choice but 'Post'.

Nope, that just shows my text.

Is one of the many buttons above this text-entry block used to 'attach' my pics? There's gotta be a way to tell the page to put the attachments inline (in the entry block).

Yesterday I learned that 'Clean Attachment' was an erasure feature...ain't gonna do that again.

Some frustrating, I gotta tell you.  wlw

AFTER A LONG WAIT, I GOT THIS:

Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator and inform them of the time the error occurred, and the actions you performed just before this error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Apache Server at www.papawswrench.com Port 80
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: john k on February 12, 2014, 07:33:44 PM
I have found that this site won't accept text and photos on the same post.   So I just put in a few words, then hit post.  Then come back to it under modify, and add the photos.  ALways takes them then.  Just trying to live with the system.
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: Papaw on February 12, 2014, 08:10:43 PM
Sorry for the troubles with pictures. We are all having trouble at times with this forum software.
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There's gotta be a way to tell the page to put the attachments inline (in the entry block).
There is a way- If you have the pictures hosted on a hosting site such as Photobucket, Flickr, or any one of the many out there, just click the icon above the text box that looks like a picture(looks like binoculars to me)- the first one in the second line- then paste the url of the picture there.
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: wlwhittier on February 12, 2014, 08:23:23 PM
Thanks, John...I'll give that a try!  wlw
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: international3414 on February 12, 2014, 08:38:57 PM
nice but clueless
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: Papaw on February 12, 2014, 08:46:49 PM
Didn't we see one here before? Tire spreader?
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: wlwhittier on February 12, 2014, 08:50:44 PM
Two long wooden shafts, similar to handles on lopping shears or orchard pruners, went in the sockets, I believe. The hooks on one face of the tool appear to allow a grip under something either side of what the pusher (at the end of the pinion) was made to force into place...if that makes any sense.

I have shown this thing to many knowledgeable folks, lots of 'em in their 80's, who have worked in the woods and associated timber-related industries...none have offered anything but guesses. Interesting, aye!

We'll see if any of the members can illuminate the mystery!  wlw
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: Neals on February 12, 2014, 10:05:26 PM
May be part of a set of cattle dehorners. I sold my set but looks very similar. Would have 2 long handles. On the bottom was a loop with 2 blades mounted at an angle in the bottom. The center piece had a Guillotine blade. Mine were solid steel but the action was very similar.
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: wlwhittier on February 12, 2014, 10:07:59 PM
That sounds pretty reasonable!  I'm on it...
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: Lewill2 on February 12, 2014, 10:19:45 PM
I second that Neals
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: WiebeLC on February 12, 2014, 10:27:26 PM
Here is a patent for a dehorner. The gearing is the same but the business end appears to have a different function.
https://www.google.com/patents/US534112?dq=leavitt+dehorner&hl=en&sa=X&ei=TEf8UvLzNsL-oQS_uoKwBA&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA (https://www.google.com/patents/US534112?dq=leavitt+dehorner&hl=en&sa=X&ei=TEf8UvLzNsL-oQS_uoKwBA&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA)
There is an example based on this patent at the museum where I work. I can try to get a picture if its needed.
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: OilyRascal on February 12, 2014, 10:28:07 PM
dehorners.  I work around the picture hosting issues by using Photobucket (or the likes).  Never had an issue since doing it that way.
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: wlwhittier on February 12, 2014, 10:39:01 PM
The issue I have with accepting "De-Horners" as the answer is that NONE of the others shown on Google Images have attachments...they're all-in-one. There are MANY vintage, cast-iron types, of various configurations, makers and patents. Not a one of them has other parts, as this one would.

This thing would need, at minimum, a vee-shaped receiving blade, into which the horn would be forced by the pusher.  And the pusher isn't well-shaped for a horn, being more flat than radiused.

Having a second, 'loose' attachment to deal with while attempting to apply the fixture to the horn of a less-than-docile bovine sounds like a non-starter...to me.
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: oldtools on February 13, 2014, 12:18:03 AM
Looks like some type of press, ~1 1/2" travel, hooks on a cross piece & presses a ~2" wide piece into the cross piece?.. or a hub?
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: wlwhittier on February 13, 2014, 03:14:47 AM
Yeah...like, maybe, a wedge?

The taper on the hooks suggest something loose enough to perhaps be 'lifted' by them; the pusher face is relieved to center or capture that wedge, keeping it between the two 'ears'.

Also, the pusher has that D-shaped hole thru it...and the opening has a taper, or 'flare', more pronounced beneath the push-face, that isn't just draft-angle for casting convenience (that feature may not show well in my pics).

The longer I look at it, the stranger it gets. I don't think we're there yet.
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: wlwhittier on February 13, 2014, 02:14:17 PM
I had an inspiration in my slumber, and showed it to a man with extensive experience in wild-animal trapping.  I suggested that it might have been used to compress springs for setting spring-loaded traps of some variety, and asked what he thought of that idea.

"Nope," he said..."no trap I've ever seen has been configured to be set with that contraption!"

Sigh.  wlw
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: keykeeper on February 13, 2014, 05:06:01 PM
Picket fence tool. For removal/replacement of wooden pickets/slats in snow fence, I believe.

Go here, scroll down the page a little, it has handles in their photo. http://www.patented-antiques.com/Backpages/T-F-S/FARM/misc_farm.htm

I remembered this from the old forum before the big crash some time ago......
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: wlwhittier on February 13, 2014, 05:18:39 PM
Looks like you've nailed it!

Thank you very much, all, for your thoughtful responses to this thread...

Whew...Glad to be done with it.  On to other mysteries!  wlw
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: rudeawakening55 on February 14, 2014, 10:03:35 PM
  I would say it's an old fencing tool .......tightner.
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: keykeeper on February 15, 2014, 10:32:56 AM
Why? I posted a link with an explanation as to its use, that references an old advertisement for it?

 
  I would say it's an old fencing tool .......tightner.
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: ron darner on April 05, 2014, 06:49:26 PM
Looks like it could have been part of a de-horner.  See http://nicemedinst.com/detail/98/ (http://nicemedinst.com/detail/98/)  or http://bainbridgevet.com.au/shop/bainbridge-keystone-dehorner/ (http://bainbridgevet.com.au/shop/bainbridge-keystone-dehorner/) for similar ones.  They still make replacement blades for some of them . . .
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: Lostmind on April 05, 2014, 07:27:59 PM
Maybe a tire bead breaker? looks like hooks insert in rim and the gear driven part pushes down on tire.
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: Billman49 on April 06, 2014, 04:20:18 AM
I seem to recall it was something to do with inserting/replacing wooden posts into a wire fence of some sort....
Title: Re: Odd Iron Implement...and Old!
Post by: Flatland Dave on April 06, 2014, 09:48:26 AM
Makes perfect sense for repairing broken pickets in snow fence/ corn cribbing.
Very cool tool.