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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: 1930 on August 01, 2011, 11:25:22 AM

Title: Pliers
Post by: 1930 on August 01, 2011, 11:25:22 AM
I can post a picture if it would help but I am wondering if it is possible to date a set of slip joint marked .................They measure about 6 9/16 long.  7oz   one side is USA   the other side has it looks like an L26  and then Cresent Tool Co  Jamestown NY USA...........They were found in a 28 Dodge amongst some original and non original tool-kit items so I would like to know where these stand.
I have a feeling that because of the ornate design on the handle they are a little high class for tool-kit tools but what do I know. Thanks
Title: Re: Pliers
Post by: Papaw on August 01, 2011, 07:44:57 PM
The L26 Crescent pliers is shown on my 1950ish Crescent display.
Title: Re: Pliers
Post by: 1930 on August 01, 2011, 08:30:41 PM
Thank-you Noel, so safe to assume that the # L-26 is a way of dating and these would not go as far back as late 20s?
Title: Re: Pliers
Post by: rusty on August 01, 2011, 09:00:52 PM

Catalog 24, (1941) , and possably older still...
Crescent had slip joint pliers back as far as 1908...
"MoToR KiT" pliers had the checkerbpooard grips, patented in 1915, and definitly for autos..

So..I would be carefull ruling out age here...
Title: Re: Pliers
Post by: Papaw on August 01, 2011, 09:30:53 PM
I don't know when they used L-26 first. Long before the 50s, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Pliers
Post by: 1930 on August 02, 2011, 05:44:44 AM
Thank-you both
Title: Re: Pliers
Post by: 1930 on August 03, 2011, 07:27:04 AM
Any idea what the L-26 defines
Rusty where would I find addit info to this comment, is there any one specific place...........MoToR KiT" pliers had the checkerbpooard grips, patented in 1915, and definitly for autos ........but before that  are Cresent and motorkit pliers related?
Title: Re: Pliers
Post by: rusty on August 03, 2011, 06:04:40 PM

Alloy artifacts page on crescent tool company has the 1915 patent, and a pair or motor kit pliers with the handle pattern. The later catalog (the above picture is from) shows both the L26 and Motor kit pliers on the same page with the same handle pattern. (different nose)
 It is not quite a verifiable step to take that as meaning the L26 goes back that far, but it is a hint. another odd thing here, the 2 pliers are among very few tools with letter prefix part numbers. most of the tools in that catalog have only digits for part numbers. Makes me think perhaps they are both older tools from a different part number system....
(Also a hint they are probably not someting aquired from S&H)

Beyond that, I was not able to find any older reference to the L26 pliers....

Title: Re: Pliers
Post by: 1930 on August 03, 2011, 07:51:18 PM
Thank-you
Title: Re: Pliers
Post by: 1930 on August 06, 2011, 03:20:22 PM
Sorry if I am making some of you guys repeat yourselves but there is only so much info I can digest and many times unless the subject pertains to something I am working on at the time it goes in one eye and right out the other.

Who made these pliers, what can you tell me about manuf. could they be appropriate for a 36 Dodge tool-kit item. Thank-you

The guy described the mark as looking like a lady bug but I just dont see it. What is the mark I show here
Title: Re: Pliers
Post by: rusty on August 06, 2011, 04:38:59 PM
My initial impression is that it is a slightly distorted (MH)  - McKaig-Hatch

http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/mckaig-hatch.html


NB: If you look at the logo on the water pump pliers, MH seems to have had slightly curved lines at one point)
Title: Re: Pliers
Post by: kxxr on August 06, 2011, 07:39:48 PM
I think you've got it rusty. I don''t see no kind of lady bug, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Pliers
Post by: 1930 on August 06, 2011, 09:13:01 PM
Rusty the pliers are a dead on match for the waterpump pliers, thanks. Do you know of any referance to put a date to that sort of curvy logo?
Title: Re: Pliers
Post by: kxxr on August 07, 2011, 01:00:00 PM
Not to nit pick, but since you mention it; the right leg of the M on your pliers is curved in the opposite direction of the right leg of the M on the water pump pliers. Very, very similar, but different nonetheless. My guess is that the difference is not due to distortion of one or the other but, in fact, are 2 separate stylized designs of the same logo, thus indicating different eras or some such clue.
Title: Re: Pliers
Post by: 1930 on August 07, 2011, 03:41:48 PM
You are right, dead on was incorrect.