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Classic Power Tools => Classic Power Tools => Topic started by: pritch on January 18, 2014, 09:52:58 PM
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I'm looking at this air compressor. It is a 1979 Montgomery Wards, two-stage, horizontal with an 80 gal tank. And a Craftsman motor. The seller says that Campbell/Hausfeld made these for both Sears and MW, and assumes that the motor was available thru Sears after the demise of Wards. Kinda made sense to me, I guess. It runs very well and pumps right up. Guy wants a grand for it, what would you guys think about that?
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I'd buy a new Ingersoll Rand for less money, before I would give a grand for a used one. Can you inspect the inside for rust? Doubt it, without tearing it down.
It would just be safer going new, I'd think, although that one looks like a beast!!
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I'd buy a new Ingersoll Rand for less money, before I would give a grand for a used one. Can you inspect the inside for rust? Doubt it, without tearing it down.
It would just be safer going new, I'd think, although that one looks like a beast!!
I agree with Keykeeper. I suppose there must be somebody with a compressor collection, but the value of this compressor is, to me, its function. You can buy an Ingersoll-Rand brand new for under $800 last I looked.
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I'd buy a new Ingersoll Rand for less money, before I would give a grand for a used one. Can you inspect the inside for rust? Doubt it, without tearing it down.
It would just be safer going new, I'd think, although that one looks like a beast!!
I agree with Keykeeper. I suppose there must be somebody with a compressor collection, but the value of this compressor is, to me, its function. You can buy an Ingersoll-Rand brand new for under $800 last I looked.
I certainly agree with the concept of buying new for a little less, I have a deep-rooted suspicion of the quality and longevity of anything new. At any rate, while I decide, is there any information about this particular compressor? The only other Monkey Ward "power tool" I have is their version of a Dremel that I got for my 13th birthday, 42 years ago. And it still works great!
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A lot of the stationary compressors sit in a corner most of there life. So the paint is shiny as it wasn't moved around but it did run a lot. My main concern would be is the tank in good condition. Lots of moisture builds up in those tanks and was it always drained?
A friend of mine had the one below delivered a few months ago. He loves it for his home shop, it really depends on how much cfm you need thoe.
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_158284_158284
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Seller must be in Colorado and smoking a lot of dope.
That's $200 top money, and $150 of that is for the Sears motor which will probably need new capacitors soon.
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Ditto what Phil said, far far too much for an unknown condition internally 3 decade old tank.
FWIW, I just scrapped a nice Ingersol pump because it wasn't rebuildable with available parts, and it wasn't as old as that thing.
Good luck finding last generation CH parts...
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I guess I'll have to pass it up. Oh well.
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I guess I'll have to pass it up. Oh well.
pritch,
No need to pass it up, just make a lower offer. I think if you could pick it up for $200-$300, you'd be getting a bargain on an otherwise well made vintage compressor. You should also assume you will have to put in a few bucks for parts and supplies (i.e. compressor oil, drive belt, air filter, and some small hardware pieces).
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A comparable new IR compressor could not be bought for less than $1, 000. There are a lot of oilless IR's out there for consumer use for much cheaper. Back then there really weren't consumer compressors -industrial quality is what you got. I've designed ptotection for compressors costing over $100k and the difference between consumer level, commercial level, industrial level, and refinery or energy level compressors is huge.
Chilly
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I cannot read the specs. lb's at what pressure, etc.
It is definitely a heavy duty model, "re-badged" by monkey wards.
You get me the spec's, and I'll let you know more.
But remember this compressor is approaching 34+ years of age, and I do not know the lubrication history.
What I really want is pounds of air at what pressures.