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Title: clyburn spanner
Post by: passy123 on September 20, 2013, 01:15:13 PM
hello everyone
i am looking for information on a spanner i had left to me by my deceased brother.
it is engraved with original clyburn number 1 and from what i can gather is around 150 years old.
any information on this would be appreciated.
thanks mr c pass {uk}
Title: Re: clyburn spanner
Post by: oldtools on September 20, 2013, 03:17:05 PM
Any photos?
Title: Re: clyburn spanner
Post by: passy123 on September 20, 2013, 03:27:27 PM
do you have an email address i have 4 pictures but the files too large to post
Title: Re: clyburn spanner
Post by: tucker on September 21, 2013, 03:10:39 AM
richard clyburn said to have invented the english adjustable wrench in 1842,also another called budding.clyburns has a sort of ofset head.the type is fairly common here.
brian
Title: Re: clyburn spanner
Post by: passy123 on September 21, 2013, 06:08:45 AM
are original clyburn spanners common
Title: Re: clyburn spanner
Post by: tucker on September 21, 2013, 06:18:43 AM
sorry,i dont know how you would prove it to be original,if you could i suppose it would be rare.
brian
Title: Re: clyburn spanner
Post by: passy123 on September 21, 2013, 06:35:04 AM
it is engraved with original clyburn no.1 and has a serial number on it
Title: Re: clyburn spanner
Post by: tucker on September 21, 2013, 07:34:31 AM
it is engraved with original clyburn no.1 and has a serial number on it
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is it a serial no or a patent no?that way you may be able to identify it.
brian
Title: Re: clyburn spanner
Post by: rusty on September 21, 2013, 11:26:54 AM
Ironically, the No 2 is also engraved "The Original"

It would be interesting to see what number is on yours, I have never seen a reference to an actual patent number, tho everyone seems certain of the invention date (how?)
Title: Re: clyburn spanner
Post by: passy123 on September 21, 2013, 11:30:48 AM
i think the original is on all clyburn spanners whatever number they are,
Title: Re: clyburn spanner
Post by: tucker on September 22, 2013, 07:01:37 AM
done some googling,found that the patent date is said to be-15th oct 1843.no patent number yet.
brian
Title: Re: clyburn spanner
Post by: rusty on September 22, 2013, 11:33:33 AM
This is why I don't trust data from the net, when everyone knows something, but nobody can give a reference ;P

There were no Utility patents issued Oct 15, 1843 whatsoever.

There was a patent issued to Richard Clyburn on Sep 5th , 1843 however.

(Note: 1842 on the table is a typo, the succeeding tables are dated 1843, in sequence, and it is from the 1844 register, which is likely where the 1842 claims come from)

From: The Mechanic's Magazine, Museum, Register, Journal and Gazette, Volume 39
(google books)

PS: The actual patent number is  3
Title: Re: clyburn spanner
Post by: tucker on September 22, 2013, 01:35:18 PM
is that your anglophobia rearing its ugly head again crusty?
Title: Re: clyburn spanner
Post by: rusty on September 22, 2013, 02:04:42 PM
Just dataphobia ;P
I have also seen Sep 13 claimed ....
Title: Re: clyburn spanner
Post by: passy123 on September 24, 2013, 12:46:39 PM
here are some photos of the clyburn spanner
Title: Re: clyburn spanner
Post by: mvwcnews on September 24, 2013, 01:43:56 PM
I'll wade in a bit -- the Sept. 5, 1843 Richard Clyburn "design" patent &  provisions of the pertinent British patent laws was noted on pg. 4 of the June 2010 MVWC Newsletter.  That bit was copied from "The London Journal of Arts & Sciences" which google had digitized from Oxford University's Library collection.
The CLYBURN design was kept in production for a long, long time -- the lettering style on the example pictured looks 1920-ish (sorta like the lettering on the WAKEFIELD WIZARD and other 1920s U.S. wrenches).
Title: Re: clyburn spanner
Post by: passy123 on September 24, 2013, 01:54:13 PM
ok thanks,is there any value in something like this