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Title: Hi picked up this Hammer Axe
Post by: Bucky902 on November 23, 2017, 04:26:06 PM
Hi picked up this Hammer Axe with name but can not make out the name does anyone recognize it?
Title: Re: Hi picked up this Hammer Axe
Post by: Northwoods on November 23, 2017, 04:54:31 PM
Possibly in Cryllic or Greek?
Title: Re: Hi picked up this Hammer Axe
Post by: amecks on November 24, 2017, 10:02:42 AM
There seems to (maybe) an (M) (O) stamped unevenly, followed by (BELL) stamped evenly.  Possibly the BELL is the phone company?  Did they ever use this type of tool?  Perhaps the (M O) are someone's initials.
Al
Title: Re: Hi picked up this Hammer Axe
Post by: Bucky902 on November 24, 2017, 10:56:01 AM
Thank you amecks  i do see the M ? maybe O followed by BELL so i will try a search on Bell 
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Post by: Papaw on November 24, 2017, 01:14:58 PM
Was there a Missouri Bell ?  Mo Bell ?
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Post by: p_toad on November 24, 2017, 05:14:53 PM
There is/was a Missouri Bell at one time; had the individual companies in most of the states.   I did find a Bell System axe head in a generic search of the web and the info i read said it was manufactured by Stanley probably between 1940 and 1960.   The example pictures almost all have a square cutout in the cutting edge and no hammer head and it appears that an axe may have been made, also.  I know it's messy, but you might try filling the low areas with chalk and re-photographing that thing.
Title: Re: Hi picked up this Hammer Axe
Post by: Bucky902 on November 24, 2017, 05:23:12 PM
thank you i did try soap stone but did not work so i will try chalk i did see the Bell ones with the hole in them to but nothing like this one so far 
Title: Re: Hi picked up this Hammer Axe
Post by: Bucky902 on November 24, 2017, 05:25:03 PM
I should ad that it was found in Nova Scotia Canada
Title: Re: Hi picked up this Hammer Axe
Post by: lptools on November 24, 2017, 07:40:54 PM
Hello, Does it look to be all original? In other words does it lok to be manufactured that way? I'm just guessing, but is that a grind mark in the photo on the hammer head? Regards, Lou
Title: Re: Hi picked up this Hammer Axe
Post by: turnnut on November 24, 2017, 07:45:40 PM
 I just went to google and put in "vintage axe/hammer used by Bell of Canada"

  3 pictures were shown of axe with hammer heads.
Title: Re: Hi picked up this Hammer Axe
Post by: Northwoods on November 24, 2017, 10:42:36 PM
I just went to google and put in "vintage axe/hammer used by Bell of Canada"

  3 pictures were shown of axe with hammer heads.
So, there you have it, folks. Another case of a heartless computer's having taken over the jobs of actual human experts.
Title: Re: Hi picked up this Hammer Axe
Post by: lptools on November 25, 2017, 05:49:10 AM
Did any of those look like the axe posted by Bucky902??????
Title: Re: Hi picked up this Hammer Axe
Post by: chips on November 25, 2017, 05:08:24 PM
It's a Campbell's axe.  There were other makers of this pattern and for a time was called a "killing axe."

Title: Re: Hi picked up this Hammer Axe
Post by: Bucky902 on November 25, 2017, 06:35:54 PM
Wow Thank You i think you are right is it a Campbell's
Title: Re: Hi picked up this Hammer Axe
Post by: turnnut on November 25, 2017, 07:32:32 PM
 on the killing axe, they would hit the animal to be slaughtered on the head with the hammer head, which I think they called the "pole".
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Post by: Bill Houghton on November 26, 2017, 11:14:29 AM
on the killing axe, they would hit the animal to be slaughtered on the head with the hammer head, which I think they called the "pole".
The traditional spelling of the heavy back side of an axe is "poll."

...which got me interested in the etymology, which led me to the online dictionary, where I found out that the word used to mean the part of the head on which hair grows and/or the back of the head, with the origin being "polle" from middle English, meaning head or hair of the head, derived from Middle Low German, where it meant hair.  So "poll" as in axe means the back of the axe head; while "poll" as in political poll probably is derived from the notion of "counting heads" favoring one side or the other of a question.

I believe the older European design of axe, formed by bending iron around a form, so that there was no heavy part, is referred to as "poll-less" by axe folks.  Or something like.  Modern remake of a medieval axe:
(http://www.medievalwarfare.info/pics/fransisca.jpg)
Title: Re: Hi picked up this Hammer Axe
Post by: pritch on November 26, 2017, 08:43:44 PM
And then there is the whole "poll-axed" side of the conversation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollaxe
Title: Re: Hi picked up this Hammer Axe
Post by: Northwoods on November 27, 2017, 03:13:26 PM
Shakespeare used the term in reference to a weapon (an axe made like a sledge hammer) in Hamlet: Act I Scene i:
 Of Hamlet's father, the King, it is said that "...in an angry parle, (conversation) / He smote the sledded poleaxe on the ice."
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Post by: kwoswalt99 on November 27, 2017, 03:26:44 PM
Shakespeare used the term in reference to a weapon (an axe made like a sledge hammer) in Hamlet: Act I Scene i:
 Of Hamlet's father, the King, it is said that "...in an angry parle, (conversation) / He smote the sledded poleaxe on the ice."

Probably one of these https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollaxe
Title: Re: Hi picked up this Hammer Axe
Post by: Northwoods on November 27, 2017, 09:08:41 PM
Did you happen to notice that ***hache*** is French for ***axe***?
Title: Re: Hi picked up this Hammer Axe
Post by: johnsironsanctuary on November 28, 2017, 10:29:35 AM
WOW!!  A really cool piece of Nova Scotia tool history. The next wow is the blacksmith skill shown in the patent drawing. What 'smith today would or could make that fancy hammer head by that method.
Great piece!
Title: Re: Hi picked up this Hammer Axe
Post by: Northwoods on December 11, 2017, 03:04:20 PM
I was reading the history portion of the Vaughan and Bushnell site and it noted that the then Vaughan Co. of Chicago made killing axes for the local stock yards.

www.vaughanmfg.com/pages/history-of-vaughan