Tool Talk
General Category => General Discussion => Daily Howdy => Topic started by: Nolatoolguy on May 10, 2012, 08:31:01 PM
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Long story short over the past two years I got to know someone. They mentioned in the past they have alot of woodworking machines and tools from when there husband passed back in 97.
Today I went on over to there house. Boy, was I shocked when I walked into the garge. He was deffinitly a woodworker. She said most of the machines were bout second hand in the 70s and 80s I am talking tons of machines such as tablesaw, planer, lathe, etc. You name it it was there. I wasnt seeing many handtools but by the sheer volume of machines was shocked. I mean a cramped 3 car garge and shed. She then said come on down to the basement. Down there was all the hand tools and were he did the assembly. A whole set of planes every kind imiganable, sets of chisels, and the list goes on and on. I really wish I took some pictures just to show you guys his amazing set up. I didnt feel that is was the right time yet, even then my camera doesnt work.
We sat down for some brownies at the dinning room table he built. It was amazing the stories she told me. Anyway we got to talking. She talked about some of this stuff like it was garbage nowdays. I explained to her however its old it is still great machinery and even thoe they are older chisels and stuff they can still bring a penny. Before we left we looked back and she started talking about how to get rid of it. I told her a few things and very rough values and let her know they were just a rough comparison to what I have saw on craigslist and completed ebay listings.
I wish I could make a deal with her but as I told her I cant give her a fair offer. I have a feeling if I was to offer her a hundred bucks for this an two for this an just toss out numbers she would take them. Normally thats what I would do but this is just the sweetest little old lady you could think of, and I just cant take advantadge of her.
I will be going over Saterday to help her go through some stuff. Ime hoping to work out some sort of deal that if I help her get these tools to a better home and clean up that I could get a few small tools.
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Good for you! Treat her with respect and help her get value for those tools. Is she in a hurry to sell? Maybe you can help her sell on Ebay or Craigslist?
Don't approach it with personal gain in mind, keep the thought that you will be doing her a good deed.
Kharma will reward you.
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Good on you, Neil. Be a watchdog for her, and don't let some greedy a--hole rob her of the value of all those tools. You know what is what, and what sells for how much.
Even if you don't get one single thing in the deal, you can walk away with a clear conscience that you didn't rip her off.
Tools can always be found and bought, but a good reputation and guilt free mind is priceless!!!
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You're a good person for doing a good deed, Nola. Be careful to manage expectations.
....don't let some greedy a--hole rob her of the value of all those tools......
If you lived in LA you could score a toolbox full of tools tonight that some wife is giving away for FREE. Talk about holes! Every time I think about that situation I'm reminded to ask myself, "where is the first tiller and the first concrete mixer you owned?"
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I got there about 7:00 this morning and was there for about 4 hours or so.
She decided that she needs to clear things up in preparation of the future. The first things she chose to do is to talk to her church and see if any struggling families are in need of basic user tools for house maintmence. She is also gonna contact a few local museums on some of the very old tools for a display or anything as she was at the muesuem for kids and the city and they had a small exibit on mechanical tools. She wants to keep the tools local. She is willing to donate only if they go to a good cause. Even thoe I am sure there are buyers on tooltalk for some of the smaller tools she is not comfortable with the online world. Even thoe they are nice pieces that some here would love we must respect her wishes. If she she feels of selling tools online I will let you guys know.
But I will tease you guys with what shes got. If any of the names on here are wrong please forgive me as some were very hard to make out but most were easy to make out.
Oliver model 144 6” jointer
Oliver 192 bandsaw 18”
Oliver 260D tablesaw 16” blade with all guides, outfeed and side table.
Delta 3666 radial arm saw 10”
Yates no. 13 wood lathe with a 9” swing and 63” center
Atlas model 1060 drill press 15”
Delta Homecraft model 120 an its 11”
Potercable Speedmatic 89 circular saw
Keen Kutter kk200 drill ¼ inch capacity
Thor 1728 drill
Skilsaw model 125
Dayton 1789 3/8 drill
Stanely h722 drill
Craft King Jigsaw
Emmerts woodworking vise
Stanley no 700 vise
Columbian bench vise
Stanley model 358 miter with a diston saw
Montgomery wards miter box
Better homes 8 piece chisel set
Dunlap 4 piece chisel set
Winchester 24” hansaw
Disston d-23 26” handsaw
Disston 4b 12 point 14” handsaw
Disston and sons 1910 saw vise
Disston d8 handsaw
Stanley 39308 26”
Stanely saw sets
Keen kutter saw set
Buck brothers 8 piece lathe chisel set
Shop smith 5 lathe chisels
7 Sandvik chisel set
Lie Nelson 9n97 plane
Fuller ½ chisel
Irwin 13 piece brace bit set, wooden case
Keen Kutter brace auger bits 13 piece wooden case
Craftsman 6 piece auger set original box
Stanely 965N brace 8”
Dunlap brace
Keen Kuter 7C plane
Keen Kutter K5 plane
Keen Kutter K130 plane
Keen Kutter KK110 plane
Miller falls no 97 breast drill
Heller bros co 14’’ file rasp
Miller falls no. 7 plane
Miller falls no.8C plane
Miller falls no 11 plane
Miller falls no 15 plane
Miller falls no 15c plane
Miller falls no 22 plane
Miller falls no 140plane
Miller falls no 209 plane
Miller falls no 900 plane
Miller falls 9790 plane
Miller falls no 68 plane
Stanely No 77 plane
Stanley no 110 plane
Stanely 100 plane
Stanely no 5 plane
Stanely no 8 plane
Stanely no h1205 plane
Stanley no 12 scraper
Stanley no 66 scraper with blades
Marples no3 Corner clam
Nordic Forge 4 piece chisel set
HK porter strap cutter
Utica 50 pliers
Duff Norton 15 ton jack
That’s just a little tease theres tons more. Lots more chisels, drawer of files, drawer of bits, screwdriver draw, braces on the wall, several more handsaws, tons of hammers, a boatload of clamps, More handheld power tools. Basicly every woodworking tool. That’s just some of what shes got. She wants to do a complete list of inventory.
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Yikes! Oliver stationary machines!? Wood boxed Irwin brace and bits?
I'm drooling!
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There is both quality and quantity in there!
Please don't let anyone take advantage of her. If a local museum is not interested, at least try to get a reputable auction house to look at it.
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Yes there is lots of tools with very good brands. Thats not even all of it thoe.
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Yeah, what Papaw said. You will never regret seeing that she is done well. I think you know that, though a lot of people never get it.
A friend who is an Episcopal priest told me the only thing he learned of real value in seminary was, "Wake each day with a grateful heart." And that's the thing with this case. You can get up in the morning grateful for having seen this collection, having found it. And having been able to help the widow of the man who collected all these tools. It doesn't get much better than that.
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Thanks guys, I try to do people well.
I talked to her today and she said the mueseum got back to her today. They are intrested in the hand braces and spiral screwdrivers along with anything with visible gears that they could possibly show to the kids. We are going to go down to the mueseum this weekend. We plan on taking a box of various hand drills, and others they mentioned. If they are intrested and think they can bennifit from them they can have them.
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We went to the mueseum today and they were intrested in a few braces and a breast drill. She decided to donate those.
We also met a gentleman who is intrested in a few handplanes for his shop. He is going to come over to her house later tonight to look at a few.
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I got there and we ordered pizza well looking over a few prices on the internet. I kept a few in the back of my head. isnt looking for top dollar but at the same time ime not gonna let her get crompletly ripped off.
He got there, and his first few offers were jokes. He then went to the tablesaw and offered 300. I said you couldnt buy the blades that were there for the saw for that price. After several minutes of no not thats to low he steped up the prices a little. He walked away with several planes for 360. She was more then happy with the price she got for them.
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i can keep update the list of things if you guys want so just say so if not I wont, don wana flood the thread with a list.
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Flood it!
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Keep it up! It is a great story and we are interested.
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We know you have great heart Neil
Just just forget to include yourself in this deal.
I realize it doesn't come natural to you, but in the end you will have spent a lot of time making other people lives richer.
Neil deserves a little too.
Cream off a pile of your favorite stuff now. You don't have to take it now, but it would be safer and better to.
yours Scott
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Ram tool corperation pad sander model R120
Wissota w66 bench grinder
Craftmsan model 22461 pad sander
Black and deckeer 7399 circular saw
Powercraft jigsaw
Stanely j-5 electric plane
Skill model 448 belt sander
Porter cable model 152 jig saw
Stanley h13b router
Stanley h-23 handyman router kit
Skill 548 router
Craftsman 100 soldering gun
Irwin perfect handle screwdrivers, various sizes
Proto ruby line screwdrivers 23 of them
Stanely surform 296 rasp
5 piece Cummins wooden handle screwdriver set orginal box
Stnaley no 25 10 inch bevel rule
Miller falls 20oz hammer
Miller falls 9716 hammer
Fairmont 16oz hammer
Proto 520 hammer
Miller falls 9137 20oz hammer
Estwing 16 oz leather wraped handle
Estwing 12 oz leather wrap handle hamer
Plomb 2040 hammer
Plumb 16 oz hammer
Stanley no 73 gauge
Stanley no 92 guage
Stanley sw 65 gauge
Stanley no 25 tb bevel
Stanley no no 36 level nine inches long
Disston an morss 31 inch long
Crescent 1950 8 inch linemans pliers
Lufkin 881 rule
Proto 234 pliers
Miller falls no 2 egg beater drill
Russell jenings Stanley no 100 bit set
Yankee 2100 brace 12” swing
Stanely no 59 dowel jig complete box set
Miller falls no 77
Tons of hargrave and Jorgensen clamps along with several craftsman
Bonney t35 3/8 drive
JH Williams s52 super ratchet ½ drive
Truecraft ½ drive 13 piece socket set
Craftsman ½ drive circle h ratchet
Craftsman 3/8 drive circle h ratchet
Craftsman V marked spiner ½ drive
Bonney no 66 tourque wrench
Indestro mfg 19 piece set metal rack/case
Walden 4060 3/8 ratchet
Xcelite p3-p12 nutdriver set
Craftsman V marked sockets lots of ithem
Walden worcester No 12 complete socket/wrench set with wooden case
Walden Worchester teeflex t handle sockets
Blackhawk 151 adjustable drain plug wrench
Utica 1050-8 linemans pliers
Wizard # 9 adjustable
Diomond calk horshoe co 8 inch adjustable
L coes and co 6 ½ adjustable perfect handle
Wizard no 9 adjustable
Pexto 793 sheet metal workin pliers
Crescent L26 pliers
Channelock 328 needlenose pliers
Craftsman 12 piece punch/chisel set in blue roll
Walsco 806w tape measure
Lufkin w928 tape measure
Stanely 1266 tape measure
Star chief no 525 tape measure
Now as far as work benches all his workbenches exept 1 were shop made. Very extremely strong and well overbuilt. He also had a set of old school gym lockers for storage of stuff. He had a older steel cabinet workbench with two kennedy 52611 chests on top along with a kennedy 297 rollaway. There was also few cabinets and steel bin unit orginizers.
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We contacted a local auction house thursday, they will come out tuesday. From what I hear they are well respected. Ive been there several times and for a auctionhouse its ran very well. Nothing is set in stone with them, we will talk terms an conditions an figure out commision when they come if the owner of the tools is intrested in the auction house.
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Today in cleaning out the shed I went home with a few things
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The snapper mower and snowblower work like a charm. The leaftblower also works, but needs a little tlc. The rider doesnt even turn over but it hasnt been touched in a while so wele see what happens once we get a good battery little fresh fuel, oil, clean the carb, lines, filters, grease everything etc etc. The roto tiller doesnt work either. I got a buddy who is real good with small engines so hes gonna come over sometime this week and were gonna take a look at em.
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You are now one of the best equipped high school boys I know, Neil!
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Loving the wheelhorse. That roller is very nice also. Looks like your in the lawn business
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LOL, thanks papaw. I may be well equiped for highschool but this is just the start of what I dream of having.
The wheelhorse is deffinitly a charm. I did have to put air in the tires to push her up on the trailer. I was suprised the tires even held air. Most of its leaked out by now but at least I got her home and thats the first step. I dont know how much moeny needs to be put in to her to get her running. I hope and dont plan on alot. Ime guessing new tires cause they seem to be dryrotted. Depending on how good she runs maybe one day a snow plow for her if thats something that is possible witch i dont see why it wouldnt be. But ime no master gearhead so ime not to sure on what all it needs.
The tiller ive got no quik plans for, i will get her running but shes not on the top of the list.
The snow blower I plan to have running excellently by this winter. Pic up a few bucks blowing snow in the neighborhood. This year I scraped by with a piece of garbage toro 421 what i couldnt depend on and a decent craftsman single stage 21 inch blower that couldnt do much more then two or three inches. It will be nice to have a good blower to depend on this year.
The leaf blower will be very nice as well come fall. Last fall I used a good old fashioned rake to rake leaves around the neighborhood for moeny but now with this bad boy once shes running she should make jobs a snap.
The push mow Ime in no rush to get tuned up as I already have 2 running good but we can all use another cant we?
Oily I feel like ive been in the lawn bussnies just not with such good(well used but still good) equitment. Ive been just using a push mower and rake.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SpE_7MbRXw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SpE_7MbRXw)
Yer killin me with the tractor!! Yikes!! You know how good this is?
All the gear is going to change your life in a big way.
Get that tiller over here tomorrow!!
yours Scott
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Thats a pretty cool video. I was watching a few on wheelhorse just now and there quite intresting. I saw a few nice restored wheelhorses to.
It will deffinitly be a good change for me.
I have only used three rear tine tillers but ive saw many. The construction of this is built like a tank. Its nice and heavy with some thick metal sheilds nice big tires good controls and the list goes on. The newer ones ive used have alot of plastic and are half the weight and much smaller. The thing is there so light they just bounce around so much. It will be nice to get her working eventually thoe.
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Those are quality yard machines. I spent 20 years as a groundskeeper and while I have never used those brands I can say I wouldn't trade straight across for new cheap stuff. The difference in maintenance costs and time, quality of work done and ease of use will pay off.
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That is impessive for a two wheel drive garden tractor.
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I think the ease of use is easier in some aspects as far as handling and guages but at the same time you dont have the durrabilty and performance. Overall I would much rather have the older stuff then the new stuff.
Ime pretty sure the one in the video just had wheel weights ant tire chains on it for plowing, ime not sure thoe i could be completley wrong.
Today we got the wheelhorse up and running, well sort of up and running. We got the motor started and engaged the mower deck the belt snapped on it. Before we even started it we knew it would need to be replaced as it was pretty much dry rotted. All the belts on the mower look pretty bad so were probably gonna replace them all. We also changed the oil and boy was the oil that came out black. We ran some gas stright through the tank to make sure she was clean in there and the tank was suprisingly clean, no dirt or nothin in there. We replaced the fuel filter for a generic one he already had. The fuel line itself will need to be replaced soon to, its so brittle. The big box store doesnt sell the right size battery for it(amps an volts are fine but the phisical size of battery box is a problem) so we hooked her up with leads to the same size battery he had but doesnt fit in the mower. We also cleaned out the carberator. Along with that he did a few other things here and there. The motor itself runs decent now, he still wants to tune her up a little. Ime gonna put a little moeny into belts for now to get her running good then I will see about all new tires if she runs good. I gotta go to the small engine dealer and pick up some belts but those ime guessing are gonna have to be ordered ime not sure. Once I get tires I will see about the chains and weights for a plow.
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Try Napa
My guy Rick just got me belts for a type 1 Deere 110. 1965
Had to order them but they arrived the next day.
When you get your belts, keep the little paper collar that came on them, like it was made of gold!
Saves a lot of hassle next time.
yours Scott
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Just a update
She sold most of the hand tools at auction. She was very pleased with the price some of it sold for. Some of the other stuff she still has an is looking at putting in auction again.
The wheelhorse is running well :)
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I just remembered this thread last night well laying in bed. It brought mixed emotions but mainly good when I re read this thread.
Recently she has gotten very ill, she is now on hospice. it is just hard to see it, but its part of life. I remember her for so long as such a great lady.
She has since been happy to sell the tools.
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Nola
You will never regret doing the right thing.
Excellent!