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Title: Whozit? Nippers "H***er & Son"
Post by: amecks on January 03, 2016, 11:41:20 AM
One pair of nippers is only marked GERMANY.  They have a tack puller and screwdriver handle ends.  I don't expect to identify them. 

But the other pair has a "H" logo in a oval with a flower or cornstalk?  The stamping of the name is off the edge of the handle.  It appears to be 4 letters and then "ER & SON..." after son it goes off the edge again.  Guessing the first letter is "H".  Looks like a "6" below that and they are exactly 6" long.
I'm thinkin' someone will recognize the logo.  What sez you all?
Al

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/tamalecks/Tools/Nippers/Nippers%20001_zps1jw23vne.jpg)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/tamalecks/Tools/Nippers/Nippers%20003_zpsy1ffzd7t.jpg)
Title: Re: Whozit? Nippers "H***er & Son"
Post by: Northwoods on January 03, 2016, 03:15:39 PM
I like them both; the bottom one because of the cool logo, and the top one because it is sooooo ugly!
No idea as to the maker, though.
Title: Re: Whozit? Nippers "H***er & Son"
Post by: Plyerman on January 03, 2016, 04:19:19 PM
Hey! I think I've seen that one in use before! I may even have a picture of it around here somewhere...........Yep, here it is:





(http://www.iqjournals.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/hermey-the-elf.jpg)




Hehe, sorry amecks, I couldn't resist. It does seem like a distinctive logo like that should be familiar to somebody around here.


Title: Re: Whozit? Nippers "H***er & Son"
Post by: blackoak on January 03, 2016, 05:40:01 PM
Just a wild guess but maybe Heller & Sons
Title: Re: Whozit? Nippers "H***er & Son"
Post by: amecks on January 03, 2016, 06:44:43 PM
Plyerman - that is them!  But it doesn't help me figger out the whozit.
blackoak - I see a lot of Heller Bros stuff - farrier tools mostly.  But Heller & Son or Sons?  I wonder if the "Sons" became the "Brothers" making Heller and Sons tools much older?  The Heller Bros tools have a horse logo.
Northwoods - The German nippers are very crude but the rivet is nicer than the H***er rivet and is not as loose or worn.
Al
Title: Re: Whozit? Nippers "H***er & Son"
Post by: wvtools on January 03, 2016, 09:25:50 PM
It is H. Boker & Son (or Sons; I cannot remember which).
Title: Re: Whozit? Nippers "H***er & Son"
Post by: Papaw on January 03, 2016, 09:37:53 PM
Are you sure? Look at this history page on Boker & Co.
https://www.boker.de/us/index.php?c=2003
 (https://www.boker.de/us/index.php?c=2003)
Title: Re: Whozit? Nippers "H***er & Son"
Post by: wvtools on January 04, 2016, 07:51:56 AM
I take it back.  I looked closer and think it is Heller & Son.   I should not post so late when I am tired.
Title: Re: Whozit? Nippers "H***er & Son"
Post by: geneg on January 04, 2016, 08:04:21 AM
Everything I have seen Heller has the horse logo.
 http://alloy-artifacts.org/Photos/tools/heller_masterench_10in_cv_f_cropped_inset2_w560_h189.jpg
Title: Re: Whozit? Nippers "H***er & Son"
Post by: keykeeper on January 06, 2016, 06:16:45 PM
I don't think it is Heller and Son(s). Nothing I can find on Heller tools indicate a mark like that.

I'm leaning more toward H. Boker and Son's, as they made pliers and other tools in addition to cutlery.
Title: Re: Whozit? Nippers "H***er & Son"
Post by: mikeswrenches on January 06, 2016, 06:44:44 PM
Here are some/all of Boker's logo's.

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p545/stich2442/5F97720A-9251-4D36-977E-C441C407831E-10616-00000ACD6893B1E6.jpg

Mostly knives.  I have several Boker pliers but none have a logo, just the Boker name.

Mike
Title: Re: Whozit? Nippers "H***er & Son"
Post by: amecks on January 06, 2016, 10:03:20 PM
Don't ask me how but I found the maker is Hilger & Sons.  It seems that it was a German manufacturer that had a distributor in New York City. 
"Hilger & Sons was an importer of cutlery and hardware in NYC, founded 1848. Eventually -- probably in the 1890s -- it merged with Wiebusch, to become Wiebusch & Hilger, one of the top 19th and early 20th century US importers of German, Bohemian, and English cutlery (there were dozens of wholesale importers, most located in the cutlery district of lower Manhattan, on or near Duane Street".  From a thread on Practical Machinist.com.
I verified that their mark is an H in a dotted oval with a flower (maybe a tulip).  There's a lot of stuff on eBay and even Craigslist from this maker.
Thanks for the help.  You guys didn't guess it but you pushed me to find out!
Al