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Farm and Implement Wrenches and Tools => Farm Implement Wrenches and Tools => Topic started by: rustcollector on May 07, 2013, 05:14:09 PM

Title: My new project
Post by: rustcollector on May 07, 2013, 05:14:09 PM
I'm not much of a restoration person, but I decided I am going to give this a try.  I bought it last weekend and other than being froze up almost solid and really rusty, it is complete. I will need a new handle and think I need to replace the wheel. Today I took off the fertilizer hopper and blasted every part of it. Came apart surprisingly easily. Just have to soak the gear mech. to free it up.

My intent is to do a true restoration, original colors and everything. Biggest problem is finding a picture with the original color scheme. I can tell it was mostly red, almost completely actually, but I am sure there was components of it that were different. Perhaps the wheel?

Going to use it as my attention getter out front at Canandaigua this August, with a price tag near $300 if I can get it done in time.
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: rustcollector on May 07, 2013, 05:15:40 PM
For those that don't know, it is a Deere & Mansur planter. Not sure of a model # or anything though.
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: rustcollector on May 07, 2013, 05:36:24 PM
Does anybody happen to know the correct wrench for it too? I have many Deere Mansur wrenches, and many extras, going to put the correct one with it if I can.
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: john k on May 07, 2013, 06:44:16 PM
Hope it gets free'd up soon, almost time to plant sweet corn!  These were pulled by a single mule, so who gets to ride the Wheel Horse, and who gets to steer?
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: Carl Wagner on May 07, 2013, 06:50:21 PM
You and I are cut from the same mold I think. I picked this Cole Mfg Co planter up in Mississippi yesterday.
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: rustcollector on May 07, 2013, 07:06:22 PM
You and I are cut from the same mold I think. I picked this Cole Mfg Co planter up in Mississippi yesterday.
I like that Cole too.
When the price is right, I think I will buy just about anything. Then put a Deere connection to it and I'm even more hooked.
I also picked up a Moline walking plow, and 2 Syracuse walking plows including a smaller one. The plows are quite a bit rougher, but not beyond help. For $20 each I had to do it. Also got a set of cultivator brackets for what I believe to be the Deere A tractors (have to do more checking on that one) that I now have no money into.
I went looking for good stuff for Canandaigua, think I did OK with what I found, but it's not going to stop me from searching for more.
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: Carl Wagner on May 08, 2013, 10:46:14 PM
I think it should be red with yellow wheel and jd green seed hopper. I have two of these and one of them had a trace of green paint on the hopper. The antique implement book shows this color scheme as well.
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: Ken W. on May 09, 2013, 01:01:47 PM
I'll be looking for this in Canandaigua.
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: rustcollector on May 09, 2013, 06:20:02 PM
I've got a lot of work to get done on it, but it is my main focus in what spare time I find. I was set up near the fence going into the steam show last year, and have the same spot this year plus one more spot next to it now too.

I think it should be red with yellow wheel and jd green seed hopper. I have two of these and one of them had a trace of green paint on the hopper. The antique implement book shows this color scheme as well.
I have found a lot of red paint on the seed hopper. I did a very light sand blast first, and it brought out a red tint to almost everything other than the wheel.So I am not sure at all yet. I hope I can do something with the handle, maybe some kind of linseed oil or something, once I get a replacement for the one side(maybe even both sides.)
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: Carl Wagner on May 09, 2013, 06:24:39 PM
I looked again at dads book and it has a color photo of the same planter. It shows it as all red with a green hopper. Who knows tho. Either way would be good enough.
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: rustcollector on May 09, 2013, 06:45:21 PM
What book is it? I might have it, if I don't is there anyway you can post the picture? Scan it or something?
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: Carl Wagner on May 09, 2013, 07:19:30 PM
Its a collector book on horse drawn machinery. Has a color section. The sulky two roe D&M planters were all red with yellow wheels. The one rows was red with a JD green hopper. Ill try to get a picture.
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: HeelSpur on July 07, 2013, 05:31:01 PM
I'm not much of a restoration person, but I decided I am going to give this a try.  I bought it last weekend and other than being froze up almost solid and really rusty, it is complete. I will need a new handle and think I need to replace the wheel. Today I took off the fertilizer hopper and blasted every part of it. Came apart surprisingly easily. Just have to soak the gear mech. to free it up.

My intent is to do a true restoration, original colors and everything. Biggest problem is finding a picture with the original color scheme. I can tell it was mostly red, almost completely actually, but I am sure there was components of it that were different. Perhaps the wheel?

Going to use it as my attention getter out front at Canandaigua this August, with a price tag near $300 if I can get it done in time.
Hows the restoration going?
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: rustcollector on July 29, 2013, 07:35:53 PM
This one is on hold, never found the correct color scheme. I have it all apart and cleaned, just ready to paint and put back together. I will not paint it until I am 100% sure of the colors though.

See the new thread I will be posting for the project we just worked on.
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: Carl Wagner on July 29, 2013, 07:50:24 PM
Ill try to get you the picture I have out of dads magazine. PM me Wednesday and remind me!
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: rustcollector on July 29, 2013, 07:57:36 PM
Will do, and thank you. I won't have time to get it done before the show, with so much else going on too. But I'd like to get it back together soon before I forget how it goes together.
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: Carl Wagner on July 29, 2013, 07:58:56 PM
I have one too so I can help with questions.
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: Ken W. on July 29, 2013, 08:34:11 PM
Can you post a pick of a seed plate ? I have 2 that nobody can identify. I've been told they are for a JD but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: rustcollector on July 29, 2013, 08:50:39 PM
I will see what I have tomorrow. I'm not sure if there was a plate there or not though. Post a picture of your plate, me or the many others may be able to help point you in a direction.
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: Carl Wagner on July 29, 2013, 09:05:44 PM
Ill look on the one at dads as well.
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: rustcollector on August 02, 2013, 08:25:08 PM
I've had so much going on that I've forgotten to look at the seed plate for this. I will do it, it just may be a couple weeks now before I can do it.
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: Ken W. on August 02, 2013, 09:40:13 PM
Are you going to the Canandaigua  steam show ? If so,I can bring them with me.
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: rustcollector on August 02, 2013, 10:09:26 PM
I plan on it. We are on the left along the fence just before you go into the display area. About 3/4 of the way up. You'll recognize a few things from here, or look for the Syracuse Chilled Plow hand cart. What day are you going yo be there?
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: Carl Wagner on August 06, 2013, 05:30:51 PM
Here's the color photo I have.
Title: Re: My new project
Post by: Carl Wagner on August 06, 2013, 05:30:54 PM
Here's the color photo I have.